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50 years in a 2000 year old church qualifies as a FAD.

If people several generations from now. . . presuming Jesus does not return before then are still reading this work, then it will then be considered an important work in the Christian church.

But I certainly doubt, that presuming that Christs does not return before then that Christians in 3000 AD will be reading Lord of the Rings or the Chronicals of Narnia on a regular basis.

However in 3000 AD I guarentee you that Augustine and Iraneus will still be read and quoted by Christians.

I just do not see those works to be major works in the history of the Christian church. I have seen the movies, they are somewhat entertaining, but not worth the accolades that they get.



I can agree with that. I do have a much higher standard for Christian works then secular because Christian beliefs have remained for 2000 years while secular is open to constant change.

You also have to anaylse what you will think will happen to something as time passes. For example its unlikely that the internet is a fad because 10 to 15 years of evidence has shown no drop in popularity and it has moved and shaped the world. The entire world has changed due to its presence.

However Tolken has gone up and down in popularity and has never really moved and shaped the church in a major way. No doctrine or teaching has been explained or understood by the church better because of Tolken or Lewis. Therefore in my opinion a fad.

While I see your point it's probably relevant to point out that neither Lewis(at least with the Narnia series) nor Tolkein set out to explain doctrine or change the church. Neither was setting out to create specifically Christian literature, they were just trying to tell a good story. As hard as it may be to believe, Lewis wasn't even deliberately trying to allegorize the Christian message. I know a Lion who sometimes appears as a Lamb that end up temporarily dying to save his friends sounds just a wee bit familiar but his intention at the outset was not a re-telling of Christ's story.
 
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I read the books about 20 years ago and saw The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe. The books were okay, but I didn't like the movie and haven't seen the others. I think Lewis has written much better books than the Narnia series and never could quite figure out why Narnia is so beloved. To each his own, I guess.

I have to agree....and I will even say I was not smitten by LOTR except when I was 15 or whenever I read them...I tried again about 10 years ago, and failed.
 
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