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No language is inspired. The original writers were inspired.
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No language is inspired. The original writers were inspired.The English language is not inspired?
First time hearing of this...
Interesting stuff !
You mean God only speaks aramaic or Hebrew or Greek?
The Ethiopians accept it, and they were until the 20th century an autonomous church under the Coptic Pope, but the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, that is to say, the Egyptian part worshipping using the Coptic Rite liturgy, does not.
Vatican II was wonderful, the problem was the cultural changes of the 1960s. Many of the more radical used Vatican II as an excuse to push their own personal ideas and agendas, saying Vatican II said this or that when it said nothing of the kind. Jesus, the head of the Catholic Church, is unchanging. His Truths, the core of our Catholic Church, are unchanging. But our understanding of His Truths change, those understandings deepen. Language changes, lighting changes. With the standard church elongated structure with the altar area raised, moving the altar some feet from the wall produced little visual change to most. That is, you're at a distance and at some distance it was difficult to even see the altar had been pulled out. For many years our pastor continued to say mass with his back to the people and in Latin, while the younger priests would face the people and use the English liturgy. I have seen a count of Catholics set at over a billion in the world. It should come as no surprise that some are more "traditional" Catholics than others, just like there are some more "traditional" Americans. Some would like to see more Latin masses, people have their own preferences. I prefer an organ to a guitar, others feel the opposite way. A lot of the great lyrics for hymns were written in Latin, and the cadence of the music loses something in English. People have a right to their own preferences with the Catholic Church, that doesn't mean they are all sowing the seeds of "dissent."While what you say is quite true (except for the idea that the Catholic Church is not unchanging), my statement was that there was a major cultural shift among Catholics in the pews during the 1960's engendered primarily by both Vatican II and the rejection of the Church's teachings regarding birth control.
Despite what you might think, there was an enormous visual change as the high altars were removed from the east wall and altars placed toward the nave so that the priest would say mass facing the people rather than the altar alone. Among traditional Catholics, there was much dissension, which continues to this day even as some favor the Latin Tridentine mass only.
One of the standard refrains from Catholics is that they belong to the Church which Christ Himself founded and which has been unchanging (although it is now frequently modified with the addition if "in matters of faith and morals").
Right.No language is inspired. The original writers were inspired.
You asked me, "Which theologian is this?" I gave you a Catholic theologian that has published his views on Purgatory. His are not the only views on the doctrine, as he readily acknowledges.
what sort of belief do YOU think draws most protestants to His Church?What about people who become RC bc the church accords with their beliefs?
this is typical of this member. I've seen many disingenuousness statements and claims about His Church from him.Actually you said "That seems to be what is happening now with Catholic theologians . . ."
"Now" means present tense, you picked some priest who died in 1863. Did you know that? I must say your comments are typical of your misrepresentations of Catholics and the Catholic faith.
I've never found a church that agrees with everything I believe!you are focusing on individuals dissenting from what is taught. You will always have that. In protestantism, if I dont agree with something, I go find a place that agrees with what I think. It is SS at its finest.
What I am saying is that Protestant denominations teach their members entirely different gospels depending on what the leadership THINKS the Gospel is teaching. This leads to the 10s of thousands denomination and changing of morals and faith.
The Catholic Church has never changed its morals or faith becasue it relys on what Christ taught His Church and She reliably interprets scripture becasue scripture is part of Her Sacred Tradition.
Actually Valletta, @bbbbbbb is really not misrepresenting the CC.Actually you said "That seems to be what is happening now with Catholic theologians . . ."
"Now" means present tense, you picked some priest who died in 1863. Did you know that? I must say your comments seem typical of your misrepresentations of Catholics and the Catholic faith. The Catholic Catechism is available free online, if you wish to continue to post comments against the Catholic faith and Catholic Church how about quoting the Catholic Catechism and going from there?
you hit the nail on the head. It's not about what "I" believe.I've never found a church that agrees with everything I believe!
I know what you mean, of course.you hit the nail on the head. It's not about what "I" believe.
You accept what Christ teaches through the Church He established.
For me it was Mary. A lot of protestants like the centralized authority. Some, the Sacraments. I also liked JP2. He apologized to Lutheranswhat sort of belief do YOU think draws most protestants to His Church?
imm, if you see it that simple, I'm not gonna burst your bubbleBtw, @concretecamper , Christ came from Israel, from the near East. He thought in and spoke Aramaic and Greek as did all the Apostles. If anyone can lay claim to being the true Church it's the EO, perhaps even the OO.
Not really, I am just messing with you. I wanted to see what your response would be.imm, if you see it that simple, I'm not gonna burst your bubble
How was it Mary?For me it was Mary. A lot of protestants like the centralized authority. Some, the Sacraments. I also liked JP2. He apologized to Lutherans
How was it Mary?
I think Protestants have too much of an issue with Mary and don't give the necessary honor and love,,,but I also think the CC goes too far.
I'm not familiar enough with what the Orthodox church believes.
How was it Mary?
I think Protestants have too much of an issue with Mary and don't give the necessary honor and love,,,but I also think the CC goes too far.
I'm not familiar enough with what the Orthodox church believes.
I've read the link and am up to The Old Testament.This is by a former Evangelical, Fr. Peter Gillquist of blessed memory
https://www.protomartyr.org/our-faith/facing-up-to-mary/
(For the anti-Sola Scriptura crowd).
Name one doctrine that was held by the Chalcedon affirming Church that is not supported in Scripture.
I contend that one doesn't exist.
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