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The Church is Crisis body. I used to be like you and think that a Physical building with a leader is so important but its not. Jesus said we get into Heaven by believing in him. Not some Church, the Church is Christs BODY not a building.
Not at all, I am a child, I don't object...
Shhhhhhhh...keep it down...keep it down.
Of course, the church is Christ's body, of which all believers are a part, but, around here, some people will tell you that you need to eat the church to be saved.
I know...I know...it sounds crazy, but after you've already been saved through infant baptism, then you're saved through eating the church.
What?
It doesn't make sense?
Just take out your brain and you'll be alright...
Paul would be considered a Calvinist if he were alive today. He taught all five points. And he would probably avoid big "c" churches like the plague that they are.
Another thing I used to believe but do not anymore is that Catholics actually had something going for them. A read through the Bible and the grace of God cured me of that notion.
Repeating a lie does not make it true...its amazing how people want to deny historical fact...love this thread!
St. Paul and St. Augustine were quite the Calvinists, John Calvin thought so.I'm thankful I do not have to deny historical facts like the crusades, indulgences, contradictions between authorities, and tyranny of Popes. Yeah, I don't have to deny the history in John Foxe's book of "Martyrs" either, or the terrible crimes against Christians like William Tyndale. I am sure many Catholics would love to erase history, but since it is so documented, all Catholics can do is try to "re-write" and soften the hard truths.
Says the person that thinks Jesus instituted popes and a sacramental system of salvation instead of grace.
I said nothing of a building or a leader. I did, however, say that God established an organization here and that people should probably listen to it. The argument that you can ignore the church itself as a historic instrument, while exalting the bible itself, is without any merit. It is the same as cutting off your legs, expecting the reduced weight to allow you to run faster.
The Church is Crisis [Christ's] body. I used to be like you and think that a Physical building with a leader is so important but its not. Jesus said we get into Heaven by believing in him. Not some Church, the Church is Christ's BODY not a building.
Since the church is the body of Christ belief in Christ implies belief in and participation in the church.
I gave up using a 66 book bible - 73 seems so much more holy
66 being close to 666 while 73 is a 7 for perfection and a 3 for the Holy Trinity
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