Mystery of the Knights Templar

[Elihoenai]

When you say "are part of," do you mean "were located in"?

The Northern Italian Merchants (Lombardy) and Rothschilds were components of the Holy Roman Empire. Given that there was/is no separation between Church and State, the huge undertakings of the Merchants and Rothschilds would have to be sanctioned/authorised by the Holy Roman Emperor.

Republic of Genoa

"Before 1100, Genoa emerged as an independent city-state,[how?] one of a number of Italian city-states during this period. Nominally, the Holy Roman Emperor was overlord and the Bishop of Genoa was president of the city; however, actual power was wielded by a number of "consuls" annually elected by popular assembly...."

"...Through Genoese participation on the Crusades, Genoese colonies were established in the Middle East, in the Aegean, in Sicily and Northern Africa...."

Republic of Genoa - Wikipedia​

 

[Elihoenai]

No, but I understood they founded the Masons.

I have also heard that the Knights Templar became Freemasons. That sounds very plausible, as they were/are experts of Operative Masonry. Apparently, Speculative Masonry came after Operative.

The Evolution of Scottish Freemasonry

 

[Elihoenai]

Or Scotland, or North America, or somewhere else--depending on which conspiracy theory tickles the fancy most.

Maybe as part of cracking the Templar Code you have to separate fact from fiction.

 

[JackRT]

Maybe you shouldn't waste any tears on this secret order, as there is a rumour, that is likely to be true, that most of them escaped/went to Switzerland.

Or Scotland.

 

[JackRT]

No, but I understood they founded the Masons.

The Masons are an invention using the Knights Templar and other ancient sources as a basis for their mythology.

 

[mark kennedy]

The Knights Templar fused Priestcraft and the Warrior Spirit to, apparently, become an invincible and irresistible fighting force for hundreds of years.

Were/are the Knights Templars the true embodiment of Messiah/Christ followers or were/are they the eternal and most devoted enemies of Messiah/Christ? Is there a secret Templar Code that must be cracked?

Knights Templar (Documentary)

Secrets of the Knights Templar - Full Documentary

What I thought fascinating was Jacques de Molay's last words were, within a year the King of France and the Pope will join me, within a year they were both dead. Something else I found interesting, the Knights Templar were, according to both documentaries the first international bankers. A fascinating history lesson, thanks for that.

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[Elihoenai]

Like all crusaders, they were a murderous group who ended up attacking Christians like the Paulikians.

Is this Dualistic Theology or utter Heresy? Does all Power come from God or is the Devil calling himself God?

Crusader Raymond of Aguiles:

"..Now that our men had possession of the walls and towers, we saw some wonderful sights. Some of our men — actually the more merciful ones — cut off the heads of their enemies. Others shot them with arrows, so that they fell from the towers. Others tortured them longer by casting them into the flames. Piles of heads, hands, and feet were to be seen in the streets of the city. One had to pick one’s way over the bodies of men and horses. But these were small matters compared to what happened at the Temple of Solomon. You would not believe it if I told you. Suffice to say that in the Temple and porch of Solomon men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies. The city was filled with corpses and blood...."

Crusaders Capture Jerusalem | Christian History Institute


Leviathan - Official Trailer

 

[JackRT]

Is this Dualistic Theology or utter Heresy? Does all Power come from God or is the Devil calling himself God?

Crusader Raymond of Aguiles:

"..Now that our men had possession of the walls and towers, we saw some wonderful sights. Some of our men — actually the more merciful ones — cut off the heads of their enemies. Others shot them with arrows, so that they fell from the towers. Others tortured them longer by casting them into the flames. Piles of heads, hands, and feet were to be seen in the streets of the city. One had to pick one’s way over the bodies of men and horses. But these were small matters compared to what happened at the Temple of Solomon. You would not believe it if I told you. Suffice to say that in the Temple and porch of Solomon men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies. The city was filled with corpses and blood...."

Crusaders Capture Jerusalem | Christian History Institute


Leviathan - Official Trailer

A description of the fall of the City of La Palma on the Island of Majorca in AD 1229 taken from a letter from a crusader to his wife and family: "Once inside, Christ’s soldiers unleashed a divine retribution on the city’s inhabitants. Most of the Muslims, men, women, and children, were killed within two hours of the breach of the walls. It was a scene of such savage butchery that, but for its divine inspiration, some might well mistake its noble purpose for the devil’s work."

Well, I think it actually was the devil's work.

 

[Radagast]

The Northern Italian Merchants (Lombardy) and Rothschilds were components of the Holy Roman Empire.

They were located in the Holy Roman Empire. They were not instruments of the State.​

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Given that there was/is no separation between Church and State

That makes no sense.

I see that you're reading stuff, but I don't think you're understanding it.​

 

[Elihoenai]

A description of the fall of the City of La Palma on the Island of Majorca in AD 1229 taken from a letter from a crusader to his wife and family: "Once inside, Christ’s soldiers unleashed a divine retribution on the city’s inhabitants. Most of the Muslims, men, women, and children, were killed within two hours of the breach of the walls. It was a scene of such savage butchery that, but for its divine inspiration, some might well mistake its noble purpose for the devil’s work."

Well, I think it actually was the devil's work.

Why didn't Yeshua do the things described in Knights Templar crusader account, given that in Deuteronomy it appears to be commanded to do so?

 

[Elihoenai]

That makes no sense.

I see that you're reading stuff, but I don't think you're understanding it.​

On there being no separation between the Church and State.

It maybe that we are not understanding the stuff we are reading or maybe you cannot see the stuff that we can see.

 

[Elihoenai]

Someone I worked with who tried to get me to join the Masons asked me to find out all I could about Solomon's temple. He said Solomon was the first Mason. He had many illustrations of the temple.

The Knight's Templar were also known as the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon, as well as the Order of Solomon's Temple.

Both are secret societies.

Apparently, The Order of the Temple of Solomon (Knights Templar) was fully restored in 2013. This order is liberal and, thereby, not to our liking. What do members on these forums think?


"The Order of the Temple of Solomon, the original historical institution of the legendary Knights Templar, founded in 1118 AD, and fully restored as an independent sovereign subject of international law in 2013 AD, embodying the authentic Templar heritage."


PRIESTHOOD

"...TRADITIONAL DOCTRINES OF DIVERSITY IN FAITH

As a canonical denomination of inclusiveness, the Ancient Catholic Church gives Christians “tradition without dogma”, gives Churches “unity with independence”, and gives Catholicism “diversity with direction”...."

Ancient Catholic Church « Ancient Catholic Church

 

[DennisTate]

The history of the Order of the Knights Templar as a trans-national military-religious order

There is a tradition that they hid many artifacts from Jerusalem here in Canada.

I have been told that a professor at the local university, St. Francis Xavier, suspects that they may even have been involved in hiding artifacts on Oak Island, N.S?

 

[Hoshiyya]

Much learning does make you mad?

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Step 1: Non-sequitur.

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There is nothing to learn from you, your formula is really simple and boring.

It's like talking to a less interesting version of the Time Cube guy.

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[Hoshiyya]

There is a tradition that they hid many artifacts from Jerusalem here in Canada.

I have been told that a professor at the local university, St. Francis Xavier, suspects that they may even have been involved in hiding artifacts on Oak Island, N.S?

of course they did, the ark of the covenant is right in your backyard. and if you move to another country, most likely wherever you move will be a place with even more sacred artifacts buried there. you're the protagonist of God's story.