My Waldo Challenge

[AV1611VET]

In your opinion, who is more apt to find Waldo:

1. Someone who believes Waldo is in the picture.
2. Someone who believes Waldo isn't in the picture.

 

[[serious]]

In your opinion, who is more apt to find Waldo:

1. Someone who believes Waldo is in the picture.
2. Someone who believes Waldo isn't in the picture.

Neither. Someone who has not yet formed an opinion about the presence of waldo in the picture.

To answer more exactly as the question is asked, the person who believes waldo is in the picture is more likely to find what they think is waldo, regardless of whether waldo is in the picture or not.

 

[AV1611VET]

Neither. Someone who has not yet formed an opinion about the presence of waldo in the picture.

To answer more exactly as the question is asked, the person who believes waldo is in the picture is more likely to find what they think is waldo, regardless of whether waldo is in the picture or not.

Um ... did you understand the question?

 

[[serious]]

Um ... did you understand the question?

Yes.

If there is something specific you are having trouble understanding about my reply, please let me know and I'll attempt to rephrase it for you.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes.

If there is something specific you are having trouble understanding about my reply, please let me know and I'll attempt to rephrase it for you.

Just ... please ... rephrase it.

Better yet, answer either "1" or "2".

 

[pgp_protector]

Neither. Someone who has not yet formed an opinion about the presence of waldo in the picture.

To answer more exactly as the question is asked, the person who believes waldo is in the picture is more likely to find what they think is waldo, regardless of whether waldo is in the picture or not.

Qft

 

[VirOptimus]

What does this have to do with physical and life sciences?

 

[AV1611VET]

What does this have to do with physical and life sciences?

Should I have put it in C&E?

 

[selfinflikted]

I agree with [serious]. Well said.

 

[Shemjaza]

In your opinion, who is more apt to find Waldo:

1. Someone who believes Waldo is in the picture.
2. Someone who believes Waldo isn't in the picture.

I'll bite, it's probably 1, if looking for waldo is all the picture is for.

However, what if 2 is in fact carefully going over the picture for some other reason? then he might find Waldo on the carousel while 1 has happily assumed that he's probably in the line for ice cream.

Where this analogy breaks down is that anyone who can actually find Waldo can point him out to everyone without any need for subjective experiences.

(Incidentally, in Australia he's called Wally not Waldo. I have no idea why, just seems like a more Australian name I guess.)

 

[AV1611VET]

Where this analogy breaks down is that anyone who can actually find Waldo can point him out to everyone without any need for subjective experiences.

It breaks down alright -- but I won't say where.

 

[lesliedellow]

Atheists sometimes sound like people demanding that you prove to them that the box isn't empty, before they will open it.

 

[AV1611VET]

Atheists sometimes sound like people demanding that you prove to them that the box isn't empty, before they will open it.

Yup.

 

[Split Rock]

Atheists sometimes sound like people demanding that you prove to them that the box isn't empty, before they will open it.

They also sound like people who know that AVET is setting up his little "trap" and will simply declare victory and ask the moderators to close the thread, without discussing the point he brought up.

 

[Split Rock]

In your opinion, who is more apt to find Waldo:

1. Someone who believes Waldo is in the picture.
2. Someone who believes Waldo isn't in the picture.

If I had to chose, I would say 1, because someone who doesn't believe (or at least accept the possibility) may lack the motivation to do a thorough search. That said, person 1 may also think he has found Waldo when he has not, because he has already decided Waldo is there. Also, if many in category 1 have looked in the past and not found Waldo, it may make little sense to continue looking. One more consideration is that if the picture has continued to be examined for other reasons, one would expect that Waldo would still be found if he was actually there.

 

[pgp_protector]

They also sound like people who know that AVET is setting up his little "trap" and will simply declare victory and ask the moderators to close the thread, without discussing the point he brought up.

What? AV wouldn't do that would he?

 

[Golden Yak]

Definitely #1. 'course, if the picture you're looking at is the Mona Lisa and you're still convinced you've found Waldo, you are under some serious misapprehensions.

 

[bhsmte]

If I had to chose, I would say 1, because someone who doesn't believe (or at least accept the possibility) may lack the motivation to do a thorough search. That said, person 1 may also think he has found Waldo when he has not, because he has already decided Waldo is there. Also, if many in category 1 have looked in the past and not found Waldo, it may make little sense to continue looking. One more consideration is that if the picture has continued to be examined for other reasons, one would expect that Waldo would still be found if he was actually there.

Exactly this.

Psychologically, if one is convinced something is there ahead of time, their mind will work to make sure they find it.

 

[Split Rock]

What? AV wouldn't do that would he?

ITS A TRAP! - YouTube

 

[TheBear]

What does this have to do with physical and life sciences?

Should I have put it in C&E?

Neither.

You do know that CF has a Philosophy section, right? Or, does everything you want to talk about have to be crammed into this tiny little section of the site, even if it belongs elsewhere?