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They weren't married, were they?It would stand as a testimony as to they being created and not born.
Adam & Eve lived for hundreds of years and were seen by many generations.
Therefore a lack of a belly button would attest to the veracity of their claims.
Yes, they were.They weren't married, were they?
What an imagination.Yes, they were.
As one theologian put it, Genesis 2 shows God building the chapel* they got married in.
* The Garden of Eden
Correct -- it did not.
I think the technical term for it is called disobedience.
Not necessarily.And yet, isn't the existence of mountains a record of a geological past?
It is by thy strength they have been raised, and by thy power they are girded about or preserved. He represents the mountains as being formed and pitched into their proper places by the mighty hand of God; and shows that they are preserved from splitting, falling down, or mouldering away, as it were, by a girdle by which they are surrounded. The image is very fine. They were hooped about by the Divine power.
Obviously they did ... didn't they?KTS said:Do perfect creations disobey?
Not necessarily.
God configured any mountains that were created during the Creation Week.
Psalm 65:6 Which by his strength setteth fast the mountains; being girded with power:
God is in the landscaping business.
Obviously they did ... didn't they?
Maybe He doesn't want to be accused of being Omphalos?Why don't you say the same thing about Adam and Eve's belly buttons, or craters?
Either that, or you need to learn how Mother Nature works.KTS said:Given the mudslides, tsunamis and other such disaters that have killed lots of people, it seems he's missed a few things.
By being complete: having all the attributes to do what was expected of them.KTS said:Then how were they perfect?
Maybe He doesn't want to be accused of being Omphalos?
Either that, or you need to learn how Mother Nature works.
By being complete: having all the attributes to do what was expected of them.
Your buddies think that is deceptive.And why would that be a bad thing?
No.KTS said:So God intentionalyl made it so those things would happen and kill people?
Including freewill.KTS said:Including the desire to obey God, no matter what?
Your buddies think that is deceptive.
Don't you?
Including freewill.
Who put those craters on the moon? God or angels?Well, if it's bad when he does it for Adam and Eve's belly buttons, why is it okay when it's craters?
Neither, it was meteor impacts.Who put those craters on the moon? God or angels?
Where does the bible say that and why do all the paintings and depictions, including the oldest, show them having belly buttons?God created Adam & Eve without belly buttons, and He [probably] created the moon without craters.
Cute.Neither, it was meteor impacts.
First of all, belly buttons are scars, and God didn't create scars.RickG said:Where does the bible say that and why do all the paintings and depictions, including the oldest, show them having belly buttons?
Not cute, rather a fact. The bible says nothing about craters on the moon.Cute.
Debris from the solar system and its still happening.And where did meteors come from?
Debris from a prior stars supernovae.Just excess material that God had left over?
The bible says no such thing.First of all, belly buttons are scars, and God didn't create scars.
And age without history is not deceptive? Seriously? And never mind that the age is full of geologic, climate and oceanographic history with fossils, paleomagnatism, orogeny, and geochemical proxies.Second of all, creating placental scars on Adam & Eve would be deceptive, in my opinion.
AV1611VET said:And where did meteors come from?
RickG said:Debris from the solar system and its still happening.
AV1611VET said:Just excess material that God had left over?
How is it that God creates the universe in six days, and then debris from millions of light years out shows up within the space of six thousand years, without angels being involved?RickG said:Debris from a prior stars supernovae.
Who put those craters on the moon? God or angels?
God created Adam & Eve without belly buttons, and He [probably] created the moon without craters.
What's the problem here?
Not hardly.Meteor impacts over billions of years.
Until someone comes up with a better explanation, I'll stick with that.KTS said:Glad to see you can admit that you don't know for sure.
That's a problem?KTS said:The problem is that firstly, you have to deny basic science ...
Actually I do.KTS said:... and yet you give no good reason for doing so ..
And your science can take a hike.KTS said:... (no, claiming that the Bible says different is not a good reason).
Yes -- and it's an educated guess.KTS said:Secondly, you are just guessing.
Then I'll sit myself right down ... like Rosa Parks did ... on your science bus, right up front.KTS said:When your guesses go against tested science, then you haven't got much of a leg to stand on.
I never said anything about debris from millions light years out or even implied it.How is it that God creates the universe in six days, and then debris from millions of light years out shows up within the space of six thousand years, without angels being involved?
Not hardly.
There is no such thing as "billions of years ago."
Until someone comes up with a better explanation, I'll stick with that.
At least it's plausible, while not contradicting the Bible.
That's a problem?
Actually I do.
And your science can take a hike.
Yes -- and it's an educated guess.
Meaning those who have been through the halls of higher academia won't understand.
Then I'll sit myself right down ... like Rosa Parks did ... on your science bus, right up front.
How is it that God creates the universe in six days, and then debris from millions of light years out shows up within the space of six thousand years, without angels being involved?
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