My Symbolic Challenge

[2PhiloVoid]

Yes.

Plato popularized a non-literal reading of the Bible long before modern evolution came out.

He did? What source are you drawing from in order to suggest this, AV?

But I also believe evolution -- (in seed form) -- was around in Old Testament times as well.

Sources?

I even think Solomon studied it; and concluded it bogus.

Sources?

And when Satan's tares started wilting, Darwin came around and watered them.

Maybe. Maybe not.

 

[AV1611VET]

So did Origen of Alexandria, Thomas Aquinas, and a host of Jewish Rabbis and leaders, none of whom ever once cited evolution as the reason for their interpretations.

I don't know about Thomas Aquinas, et alii, but Peter S Ruckman referred to Origen as a "walking, barefoot, bas****".

Then we would expect to have some record of people from those times citing evolution to justify their non-literal translations, shouldn't we?

Do you expect to see a record of their addresses as well?

Or is this just a version of history that you've imagined?

Not proud of your academic roots, are you?

Good.

 

[AV1611VET]

But it's only YOUR interpretation of the Bible it contradict.

But not yours ... right?

 

[Hans Blaster]

I could explain it to you,

Shaka, when the walls fell.

but that would take precious time away from my reading of other Jewish authors we all know and love.

There are no Jewish authors I love.

You'll just have to fend for yourself. ..............I did.

".............." Yes, Yes. That makes sense. Now if you had written "..............." then I would be confused.

 

[River Jordan]

I don't know about Thomas Aquinas, et alii, but Peter S Ruckman referred to Origen as a "walking, barefoot, bas****".



Do you expect to see a record of their addresses as well?



Not proud of your academic roots, are you?

Good.

So you have no sources or citations and what you posted was just your own made up version of history. Unfortunately, rather than admit it you instead resorted to personal attacks.

If that's all you have, no wonder you kept dodging the point.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Plato popularized a non-literal reading of the Bible long before modern evolution came out.

He did so before the Bible came out?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

There are no Jewish authors I love.

Really? Well, that's surprising, but Carl Sagan will remain on my list, nevertheless.

".............." Yes, Yes. That makes sense. Now if you had written "..............." then I would be confused.

Y'know, you remind of Nihilist Virus, just a lighter version.

 

[dlamberth]

Do you dance skyclad?

I don't think they were into sacred scripture very much.

 

[dlamberth]

My answer to his question is:

If there's some advantage you can glean from segmenting the earth into geological columns, then by all means do so.

And may God help you do it.

Just don't get carried away and end up contradicting the Bible.

When the Earth itSelf contradicts Genesis, I have no choice but to go with the Earth, as Created by God is showing us.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Really? Well, that's surprising, but Carl Sagan will remain on my list, nevertheless.

If there was an "author I loved" (a category I don't feel any need to populate)it would be Asimov, but like Sagan he was an atheist, not Jewish.

Y'know, you remind of Nihilist Virus, just a lighter version.

I recall that poster, but I have a hard enough time keeping track of the personality traits, personal stories, and foibles of the posters I interact with regularly.

I've got fuel to burn, got roads to drive.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

If there was an "author I loved" (a category I don't feel any need to populate)it would be Asimov, but like Sagan he was an atheist, not Jewish.

Who said I was referring to fiction?

I recall that poster, but I have a hard enough time keeping track of the personality traits, personal stories, and foibles of the posters I interact with regularly.

I don't.

I've got fuel to burn, got roads to drive.

That's fine. I need to get back to my reading of Leonard Susskind. Have a nice, non-Jewish day!

 

[AV1611VET]

He did? What source are you drawing from in order to suggest this, AV?

Things to Come, by J Dwight Pentecost

Sources?

Jeremiah 2:27 Saying to a stock, Thou art my father; and to a stone, Thou hast brought me forth: for they have turned their back unto me, and not their face: but in the time of their trouble they will say, Arise, and save us.

Sources?

Ecclesiastes 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.

(Notice how prescient evolution is referred to as an "invention" -- not a "discovery" as academia teaches today?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

But not yours ... right?

It's not my interpretation the world is clashing with.

 

[AV1611VET]

So you have no sources or citations and what you posted was just your own made up version of history.

I beg your pardon?

I believe the name of the book is Manuscript Evidence, by Peter S Ruckman.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Things to Come, by J Dwight Pentecost

ok. Any idea what page of that book his reference is on?

Jeremiah 2:27 Saying to a stock, Thou art my father; and to a stone, Thou hast brought me forth: for they have turned their back unto me, and not their face: but in the time of their trouble they will say, Arise, and save us.



Ecclesiastes 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.

(Notice how prescient evolution is referred to as an "invention" -- not a "discovery" as academia teaches today?

 

[AV1611VET]

He did so before the Bible came out?

Ooops!

My mistake!

It was Philo of Alexandria -- not Plato.

Thanks for the heads up!

 

[essentialsaltes]

Things to Come, by J Dwight Pentecost

Holy nominative determinism, Batman!

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't think they were into sacred scripture very much.

Good for them.

Do you dance skyclad?

 

[AV1611VET]

When the Earth itSelf contradicts Genesis, I have no choice but to go with the Earth,

I understand.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Ooops!

My mistake!

It was Philo of Alexandria -- not Plato.

Thanks for the heads up!

ok