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Sure.Where it's always been: a catchy shorthand phrase.
Whoosh!
Right over my head.
If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.
So "fight or flight" is another embarrassingly truncated term that evolutionists quietly dropped from their vocabulary?Ditto.
So "fight or flight" is another embarrassingly truncated term that evolutionists quietly dropped from their vocabulary?
"Fight or flight" has never been a term associated with evolution. It's a term describing animal behavioural response when threatened. More correctly it should be 'fight, flight or freeze'.So "fight or flight" is another embarrassingly truncated term that evolutionists quietly dropped from their vocabulary?
Right now, I'm dealing with "survival of the fittest" here.
It does now, but QV:"Fittest' refers to reproductive success.
Darwin wrote on page 6 of The Variation of Animals and Plants under Domestication published in 1868, "This preservation, during the battle for life, of varieties which possess any advantage in structure, constitution, or instinct, I have called Natural Selection; and Mr. Herbert Spencer has well expressed the same idea by the Survival of the Fittest.
It does now, but QV:
SOURCE
Remember my example with the "varieties" battling for life with cytotoxins?
Yes ... I ... know.From your own linked Wikipedia article:
"Survival of the fittest" is a phrase that originated from Darwinian evolutionary theory as a way of describing the mechanism of natural selection. The biological concept of fitness is defined as reproductive success. In Darwinian terms the phrase is best understood as "Survival of the form that will leave the most copies of itself in successive generations."
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Back then it meant survival of the form/group/species with the most reproductive success. The whole thrust of Darwin's theory is about reproductive success. Over time the word 'survival' juxtaposed with a changing sense of the meaning of 'fitness' led to the perception that evolution was some kind of physical face off. In evolutionary terms, you might be the biggest, baddest, bare-knuckle boxer but if the skinny guy has more kids, he wins.Yes ... I ... know.
It means that NOW.
But what about back then?
You know?
Before scientists embarrassingly truncated the "of the fittest"?
Where does survival of the fittest fit in with evolution today?
I don't hear that term much anymore.
Usually they stop at "survival," and "of the fittest" seems to have made an [embarrassing?] exit.
I like:Its called "tautology" the "survival of the survivors"
It does now, but QV:
SOURCE
Remember my example with the "varieties" battling for life with cytotoxins?
I like:
"Survival of the fittest" doesn't explain "arrival of the fittest."
I refer you to Chapters II and V of On the Origin of Species, which deal with variations. Alas, they don't fit well on a bumpersticker.
I just tried to convince him that Darwin wasn't scripture.
That's neat.I just tried to convince him that Darwin wasn't scripture.
Yes, because thats not how science works.That's neat.
Darwin is considered the Father of Evolution, yet we aren't supposed to take his writings as gospel.
I keep my copy of 'Origins' in an ornate gold plated reliquary, on a side table in a sheltered alcove. It's lit by the flickering ambience of a perennial votive candle and washed with the soft incense of sandalwood.I just tried to convince him that Darwin wasn't scripture.
Where does survival of the fittest fit in with evolution today?
I don't hear that term much anymore.
Usually they stop at "survival," and "of the fittest" seems to have made an [embarrassing?] exit.
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