My Sandwich Challenge

AV1611VET · Oct 30, 2022

Frank Robert said:
Science can not test a non-testable hypothesis or statement or belief.

Scientists didn't test ESP from Apollo 14?

SelfSim · Oct 30, 2022

AV1611VET said:
Scientists didn't test ESP from Apollo 14?

What was their hypothesis?

Frank Robert · Oct 30, 2022

AV1611VET said:
Scientists didn't test ESP from Apollo 14?

What was the hypothesis and was what was the design to test it? Perhaps it wasn't tested because it didn't any merit for a scientific institute or organization to spend money to test it.

A quick search showed that Mitchel conducted the experiment unbeknownst to anyone else. He apparently got some interesting results and in 1972, he retired to start the Institute of Noetic Sciences in Northern California. The idea, he explained, was to merge spirituality with science.

I couldn't find any published studies. Only, since 2009, the Institute has published a semi-annual bulletin, The Noetic Post. From 2003 to 2009, it published a quarterly magazine, Shift: At the Frontiers of Consciousness.

I am not against science and spirituality working together. I had a supervisor in grad school who actively worked with African shamans and in her retirement she opened a clinic in Nairobi using both modern psychotherapy along African traditional healing.

dlamberth · Oct 30, 2022

AV1611VET said:
Evidently academia doesn't like being challenged from the religious.

After all, it's their job to test us, then grade us, based on the information THEY supply us.

What I'm seeing here is that it's the religious who are trying to challenge science with a bunch of nothings..(pun intended)

HARK! · Oct 30, 2022

Frank Robert said:
If we don't know what apple or butter is then all we have is word for it that you created an apple butter sandwich whatever that is. What you have on your side is that there will always be people who will believe anything.

Apple butter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_butter
Apple butter is a highly concentrated form of apple sauce produced by long, slow cooking of apples with cider or water to a point where the sugar in the apples caramelizes, turning the apple butter a deep brown. The concentration of sugar gives apple butter a much longer shelf life as a preserve than apple sauce.

AV1611VET · Oct 30, 2022

dlamberth said:
What I'm seeing here is that it's the religious who are trying to challenge science with a bunch of nothings..(pun intended)

NOTHING is a good place to start.

Then God used a series of miracles and spoke to NOTHING, ordering it to bring forth the universe over a six-day period.

Ain't that something!?

HARK! · Oct 30, 2022

AV1611VET said:

Yummy!

No trees nor cows were harmed in the production of this picture.

HARK! · Oct 30, 2022

SelfSim said:
.. and yet; trees, cows, milk, and butter are apparently excluded from your universe (created for the purpose of polling an audience).

I didn't include LGBTQIA+ either.

Don't judge me. I was born this way.

SelfSim said:
The universe seems like a pretty pliable one. How does that effect the numbers in the poll?

I'm completely satisfied with the poll results. I even respect the views of the minority, who didn't rule out the possibility of alternate universes, even though I disagree with that way of thinking.

HARK! · Oct 30, 2022

SelfSim said:
@HARK! said somewhere back in this thread(?) that the universe included everything (IIRC), .. now it appears there may be some exceptions(?)

What would those exceptions appear to be?

AV1611VET · Oct 30, 2022

HARK! said:
Yummy!

No trees nor cows were harmed in the production of this picture.

SelfSim · Oct 30, 2022

HARK! said:
I didn't include LGBTQIA+ either.
Don't judge me. I was born this way.

Can you sing and perform that as well as Lady Gaga (including looking as good in the stage costume)?

HARK! said:
I'm completely satisfied with the poll results. I even respect the views of the minority, who didn't rule out the possibility of alternate universes, even though I disagree with that way of thinking.

Noted and appreciated.
Also nice to know that satisfaction was evidently another purpose, too(?)

SelfSim · Oct 30, 2022

Hark!' said:
SelfSim said:

@HARK! said somewhere back in this thread(?) that the universe included everything (IIRC), .. now it appears there may be some exceptions(?)

Click to expand...

What would those exceptions appear to be?

Well I was a little off the mark in what I said there (re: my underline) .. apologies .. but that doesn't alter that there's apparently always been exceptions .. ie: that which is 'less than', and excludes, an apple butter sandwich(?):
Post#27:

Hark! said:
That which is greater than, and includes, a apple butter sandwich.

HARK! · Oct 30, 2022

SelfSim said:
Well I was a little off the mark in what I said there (re: my underline) .. apologies .. but that doesn't alter that there's apparently always been exceptions .. ie: that which is 'less than', and excludes, an apple butter sandwich(?):
Post#27:

Apparently you are misunderstanding what I said. The sum of the sandwich, and that which is less than the sandwich, is still greater than the sandwich.

durangodawood · Oct 30, 2022

HARK! said:
Synonyms for create

beget,

breed,

bring,

bring about,

bring on,

catalyze,

cause,

do,

draw on,

effect,

effectuate,

engender,

generate,

induce,

invoke,

make,

occasion,

produce,

prompt,

result (in),

spawn,

translate (into),

work,

yield

Thesaurus results for CREATE

That's not how we communicate. You don't give me me a list of options for what you mean.

You tell me what you mean

HARK! · Oct 30, 2022

durangodawood said:
That's not how we communicate. You don't give me me a list of options for what you mean.

You tell me what you mean

The context of how the word was used in the OP was readily apparent for most. However, by now it should be crystal clear that the words "create" and "make" are synonymous.

mama2one · Oct 31, 2022

SelfSim · Oct 31, 2022

HARK! said:
Apparently you are misunderstanding what I said. The sum of the sandwich, and that which is less than the sandwich, is still greater than the sandwich.

There are uncountable things less than the sandwich, but that is beside the point.
The point is that you just described your model, (or what you mean by), 'greater than the sandwich', (or your model of the universe).
Can you see how you just created the universe, by giving it (yet another) meaning?

(On second thoughts, I think I'll dip out of this tiresome discussion and move on .. thanks for the ride. Cheers)

HARK! · Oct 31, 2022

SelfSim said:
There are uncountable things less than the sandwich, but that is beside the point.
The point is that you just described your model, (or what you mean by), 'greater than the sandwich', (or your model of the universe).
Can you see how you just created the universe, by giving it (yet another) meaning?

(On second thoughts, I think I'll dip out of this tiresome discussion and move on .. thanks for the ride. Cheers)

Don't forget to vote.

Astrid · Oct 31, 2022

dlamberth said:
What I'm seeing here is that it's the religious who are trying to challenge science with a bunch of nothings...

As always

AV1611VET · Oct 31, 2022

dlamberth said:
What I'm seeing here is that it's the religious who are trying to challenge science with a bunch of nothings..(pun intended)

Estrid said:
As always

We give them that NOTHING too, but they can't handle it and go 404.

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Maybe in an alternate Universe

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