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My Relationship Experience (Feedback/Advice Requested)

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GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta said:
Why certainly, I don't think that she's exactly treating me in the best manner. However, she does have a lot of good qualities:

1. She's a Christian
2. We read the Bible together
3. She makes me things (croched two blankets; made a sock cap for me; makes cds)
4. She buys me things (it's the thought I like).
5. She compliments me.
6. She loves me.


let me be blunt. pretty much everything you listed - are things she DOES for you.

DO NOT hold onto a person because of what they do for you.

it is your decision - but be forewarned - if you marry her (and she does not somehow change her demeaner before you marry) - what you are expereinceing now WILL INCREASE.

now we are marrried let's have kids (a couple months in)

NOw let's get a house
now lets
now lets
why don't you
why
how come

hopefully you get my point.

you listed "good qualities" - but..

IS she your best friend? Can you tell her anything without being ridiculed/put down or it being brought up 115 gazillion times?

DO you look forward to be around her? or do you kind of "wince" when you know you are going to see her?
 
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Before I pour out my heart about my relationship, let me tell you a few things about myself. First, I am a 28 year old single man. I have been dating a girl (hereto known as "my girlfriend") for a year.

Where do I start.

Ah. Let me start off by saying that I'm writing this in an effort to get some sincere feedback about my relationship.

Here goes:

I met my girlfriend last March while chatting online. When I met her, she seemed so nice, friendly, and like an answer to God's prayers. Earlier that day, I had written a letter to God asking Him to send a mate my way, but that I was finally going to give it over to God. So, the night of that letter, I meet my girlfriend in a christian chatroom. I had resigned myself to "I'll look tonight (as I had done many times before with little success), but if no fish bite, I'm not going to worry about it any longer". So I meet this girl, and we hit it off. She was very kind, considerate, funny, and we seemed to share a lot of interests. Over the next couple weeks, we chatted on instant message through the computer, and then I finally called her.

Once we started talking on the phone, she, unlike many other women that I had spoken with, was interested in meeting. There was one problem. She lived in another state. Granted that it was a neighboring state, the distance from my house to hers was five and a half hours.

In April, I had originally felt that we shouldn't meet until summer, June to be exact. My reasoning was that I couldn't quite grasp her impatient nature of wanting to meet so soon, which was quite uncommon compared to most females I had spoken with. I wanted to make sure that she would still like me for me, and that she was balanced. Yet, one April night, I called her up and asked her out for the following weekend.

One morning in April, I drove halfway between my house and hers to meet her, and we rode together into the metropolitan area in which I live. After a day together, having fun, I drove her back to the half-way location. I kissed her goodnight.

From April to June, we were still in the "dating phase", meaning that I hadn't committed myself to exclusively dating her, though we weren't seeing anyone else. In June, I asked her to be "my girl". Yet, one of the things that has gotten me about me asking her to be my girlfriend, was the nature of the time surrounding it. As early as May, my girlfriend had been asking me when I was going to ask her to be "my girl". I was taken back by this, as it seemed unusual for her to be talking about being her man after only a month, and not letting things naturally progress. In May, she had a "freak out" episode at the end of a good date, in which she all of a sudden started saying, "Why don't you know" (about wanting her to be my girl). This episode lasted over an hour, in which she shed many tears. She apologized and said that it wouldn't happen again.

In June, I asked my girlfriend to be "my girl". Everything seemed to be running smoothly. We were going on short road trips, and my feeling of love for my girlfriend was growing, as I have felt this feeling with a past girlfriend. However, only about a month after I asked her to be my girl, my girlfriend started the "why don't you know if you want to marry me" business. These were similar to the freakout episode in May, but with a different twist on them. Usually the episodes would last about an hour, and they'd come about once every two weeks. Needless to say, these episodes literally killed most of the "love" feeling that I was developing for my girlfriend. It made me begin to feel uneasy and question her emotional well-being. Furthermore, regaining that lost feeling wasn't easy, since our distance only allowed us to see each other every weekend.

From July to September, came very good times and very anxiety-filled times, compliment of the "worry sessions" courtesy of my girlfriend. Certainly, she wasn't making it easy for me to love her like I wanted to, being filled with constant uneasiness and being impatient like anyone I had ever seen. Needless to say, the comments of, "when are you going to see me as someone who wants to marry me," lasted for two or three months until I said that I could see marrying her.

Since October, only six months after meeting my girlfriend, and only four months after asking her to be "my girl", harps of "wanting to get married" have been so frequent that it has prohibited the natural progression of the relationship. She gets frustrated with me, as "I'm not in the same spot as her". I, on the other hand, get frustrated, as I feel like she worries too much, hasn't allowed for the relationship to blossom like it naturally would, and that it has been more forced than anything.

Over the time, though, despite all the hardships, I have developed a real love for my girlfriend, but the relationship has no fire, at least on my side. I do not get butterflies in the stomach, the infatuation, or anything like that, and I haven't had that at all since her freak-out episodes first began to appear, despite her being attractive.

In the relationship, I often feel that I have no freetime, despite the fact that we only see each other on the weekend. At times, she calls me about ten times per night. While I love to talk to her, overkill can occur on anything. There are times that I just want to wind down, and she sometimes gets upset if I request for her to allow me some free time.

I had become understandable about her emotions, and the ways to best keep her happy. I've come to realize that if I don't do things in the ways that she wants me to do it (for example: she wanted me to change my cell phone plan, as well as she wanted me to open a savings account), she'll get upset. I've resorted to lying, saying that I've looked into things, in which I often haven't, as I've viewed her persistence as meddling too much into affairs that only relate to me.

Regarding the idea of marriage, she talks about it constantly, and while I want to get married, given the frequent worry sessions, constant "asking me to do something", impatient nature, etc., I haven't been excited to get married. My girlfriend, I believe, perceives this, and she'll say, "we're not on the same wavelength". I have practically been backed into a corner in which she constantly talks about marriage, "wanting a ring", and asking, "when am I going to get my ring". She sends me ring advertisements, and I've been "forced" to say my hesitantcy in not asking her yet is because I haven't acquired enough money to purchase a ring (partly true, but mostly not). She has practically set a date for when I shall have asked her, but I never really was allowed the opportunity for the relationship to flourish, given the emotional "warfare" since last May. Furthermore, she hasn't been my girl for even a year, and she's ready to get married.

My girlfriend talks about events as "wasting her life". If she sees no relevance or significance, or if she doesn't get what she wants when she wants it, she gets aggravated, believes she is wasting her life with it, etc. Just tonight, she told me that she's going to break up with me if I don't ask her to marry me soon, and even then, the "date" for asking her seems to have moved to the end of March/early April. She said, "Don't be surprised if I don't stick around". Yet, she unabashedly claims that she loves me "so so much".

My girlfriend always seems to make me into the one who is being unfair, and her the victim. Usually, after carefully explaining to her that I have not done anything wrong, or done anything intentional to hurt her feelings, it is still to no avail. I then try to subtly admit some responsibility (as well as admitting her responsibility as well) so as to save face. These times can be very emotionally draining. There are times when she absolutely refuses to get off the phone, of which any answer that I give her is no good. If I hang up, she gets very upset. She starts saying, "You don't want to talk to me". She then gets more noticeably upset, and it further weighs on my body. Sometimes we'll be on the phone and very little is said. However, if I suggest we cool off, or that we not spend the time on the phone at that moment, her feelings get hurt, and she claims that "she doesn't matter". She's kept me up until 1 am in the morning, calling me back, time after time.

Given all of this, what's your take on my situation? What do you think about it? Is this normal? Should I marry her. Should I break up with her? Should we slow down? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Georgia guy,

It appears that both of you have issues to resolve before either of you commit to a serious relationship with anyone.....

If I may be candid, why do you need a forum to tell you what to do here? You are clearly not happy, not at peace about this relationship, and are looking for ammunition from others to convince your girlfriend you guys need a break...permanently. It sounds like you do not like conflict and do not do well with confrontation. Have you had some controlling women in your life (mother, exes, etc) damage your self-esteem? You clearly are not comfortable in communicating your true feelings and concerns with this woman.

She is someone with a lot of baggage and damaged emotions. She clearly did not get the affection she needed from her dad or a boyfriend or some male person in her life that we would call a "pivotal" person. She is looking for validation and she wants to exercise control at the same time. This tells me some man abused her mentally, emotionally, and possibly physically at some time in her life. She has not addressed these issues at all.

First of all it doesn't sound like you have discussed her issues as a concern to you. Have you flatly stated to her that her behavior makes you uncomfortable and drives you away? That her behavior is a clear indication that she has insecurity issues and Lord knows what else that she needs to resolve before she launches into a serious relationship? You sound like a people pleaser afraid to hurt her feelings and that is why you have not ended this thing months ago. Correct? Dude, you gotta step up to the plate and end this with the truth. You are not happy, in love, nor do you want to spend your entire life with this girl. She needs to hear that she has got to get her act together for herself first and foremost before she looks to men to solve her problems (which they won't).

Going forward, you need to ask yourself why you put up with this kind of behavior. When the warning signs start next time around, get out then!!!! Do not rationalize. It sounds like you are also desperate for love.......DO NOT SETTLE. Be strong. Do things to build yourself up and fill that lonely need so you will not accept or tolerate this kind of behavior from someone.

Let me say as a woman that I truely believe in taking things slow, letting God direct our pathes, and determining WHY pathes cross. Sometimes there is chemistry with someone and we mistake it as romantic interest. Take time to determine why providential circumstances to place to bring you two together.

And, remember this one point. People that are whole are patient, giving, loving, nurturing people that wait on God. People who are damaged are needy, clingy, insecure, controlling, deceptive, and are not led by the holy spirit. The spirit is quenched and the flesh leads all decisions.

Read Dr Phil's books and the Boundaries series. There are also great books on how to deal with difficult people. You learn it is ok to say no.......

Good luck...be strong....and remember we have an enemy that lurks about. Maybe the God of this world sent this woman to you....Or, our heavenly father to show you what He does not want for you.
 
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