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My problem with Planetshakers and why I am leaving

jesusmyhealer

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I've just come on tonight for the first time in a long time & was attracted to your thread as I'm aware of the incident with Mike Gugliemucci. I attended Paradise Church here in Adelaide when we were advised Mike did not have cancer but a porn addiction. I left Paradise Church too. There was a time when I was in need of help, desperate for some assistance so I reached out to them & they basically gave me a contact number of some government department. From then on I could not go back there. It was alright for them to grab me from the crowd the first night I went there & for me to donate but when I needed help well.
 
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I hear you! What makes me ill is they have "spotters" members of the church that look out for new people. The Pastor calls out to all the new people who are desperate, lost & in need of help and he calls out "if this is your first time here, if you are just visiting & you want Jesus to come into your life, raise your hand......blah blah" Then the spotters come out, grab you & take you round the back where other Pastors convince you to join & come back. Thing is there's no follow up, they could not care a less. As I said I was pregnant at the time & also had a 5 year old & I was going through depression or anxiety not sure really but I needed help & serious help, I wanted to end my life & I was 7 months pregnant. I phoned them crying asking if a Pastor could come to me & talk to me & they told me to call the pregnancy help line or one of those outlets. I could not believe it. No phone call back nothing. I had just been baptised again by Paradise Church while I was pregnant & I thought I had really found a place I could be happy & at peace. I was wrong!
 
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I went there on going for four years..non stop without missing a service..(even come when you are sick they say..) which isnt always a good thing..I vomited once on the way.

They ask for Tithes 10% of your wage..love offerings (to show the guest pastors that visit the church you are grateful and love them) and then Gift Offerings..A gift to God, ontop of your 10% tithe..and love offering..as you OWE god your tithe..and SHOULD give a love offering..but you now have a wonderful opportunity to give a "gift" to the Lord.


After that.....there was nothing left. I was bled dry. When people would come up to me homeless on the street...I wanted to give to them too (buy a meal for example) as I know it is with people that Jesus' heart is...not at music concerts! However I would still try and give them money too..so I starving at one point.......

However ontop of all this asking, they also remind you to buy conference tickets for your friends and relatives.......

ALL YOUR MONEY GOES TO THEM........NOT GOD.............BECAUSE PEOPLE IN THAT CHURCH ARE HOMELESS AND STARVING LIVING ON FOOD VOUCHERS and they are building "Planetshaker" Campuses in Geelong and South Africa!! Is this right? To ignore the people sitting infront of you struggling, but to help people overseas?

I have come from a very bad traumatic background and the Main Pastor made a comment of people "going back to their caravans". Are all people who live in caravans trash? Is this what Jesus would say? Would Jesus say Go back to your caravan if you didnt do what he said?

No..Jesus would never do that.
Once at one of the conferences.......The same pastor made a comment about his wife not needing a face lift (lovely and true) however he was targeting Joyce Meyers, a world preacher who is healing millions of people due to abuse in their life! Who could possibly bag out Joyce Meyers?? She had a facelift...GET OVER IT.......look at the good she is doing!!

Whe I first started going to Planetshakers..I got an email saying something along the lines of "we are sorry to inform you Mike Guglimucci previous pastor did not have cancer!" I couldnt help but think it was a wonderful thing that he didnt have cancer (whoever he was)....... Very strange wording considering it was good news!

On top of that....I know 100% that they would have discerned this guglimucci guy was not right.....but because they are hanging onto things of the world..such as money, power, fame and vanity..they did not care! And this is what happened.......Many girls always did their hair and make up in the bathrooms.....

come on guys?? IS THERE NOT A CAUSE? It wasnt about jesus.........it was a concert........

I felt sad there all the time.........but now i am gone..

did anyone else feel this way?

keep gonig to different churches until you find the right one!
i love my church...mostly everyone that gose there wasnt born in this country =P
 
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well all i want to say is ... different churches target different people, different back grounds, different ministries ... these all vary from church to church most of the time because of the different vision/ministry that God has placed in their hearts .... personally i have nothing against people going from one church to another ... its up to you and its a matter to be made with much prayer ... u cant judge them based on the fact that they were not able to discern about Mike (he was the writer of the song "healer"... (not being judgmental but did u discern that God wanted you to go to Planet Shaker's church) ... i support what mike did ... research it on You-tube ... he asked for forgiveness from the public he cheated and gave them back the cash that was contributed to him (for his "cancer" treatment) ... He got kicked out by Hillsong but Planet Shakers supported him (something im proud to say they did) ... when people forget that they do sin and usually just ask God for forgiveness instead of asking also from the people its not complete and Mike came clean on TV directly based on a vision he got from God ... and you should not speak against your pastor (shepherd) cos he might be praying for you and u might not know it and remember when aaron and miriam spoke against God's servant Moses it caused God to be angered and cos miriam to die on the mountain ... so ask God to forgive you for any unseemly talks you might have had or done .... well yeah we all fall short but thank God for his long arms of Grace that redeems us and gives us all more than infinite "second" chances (i dont think you should capitalize on this though ;) )

well basically if u feel that you are not growing in a church spiritually then pray about it to see if God wants you to continue there to make a difference or if God wants you to move somewhere else.

well and if you feel that the money (tithe) goes to the church and not to mission fields (or whatever you think that makes it get deposited in God's checking account) its not gonna be counted against you but against them (if that is true that is) so dont worry for God looks at your heart ( for God loves a cheerful giver )....

If you are happy and convinced that God has led you to move then why post .... continue to bless the people around you :)

God Bless =)
 
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