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Here in England, may official functions were in Latin or French, such as law courts, till Oliver Cromwell in the 1640s
 
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I can't even tell what my point was when writing this. Every day I learn something new and modify my position. For example, once I learned that Anglicans believe in apostolic succession, that was a dealbreaker for me. Then, I learned that the Reformed "Westminster Confession" is intentionally ambiguous on double predestination to be a big tent statement, so you can hold to a Lutheran single predestination view and fit into it. So the main issue comes down to baptismal regeneration and it's relation to apostasy, because if Lutherans say that "regeneration" occurs with(at the moment of) baptism and that the elect are those who finally persevere, they should express that better in their dogmatics. My sense is after studying Lutheranism for a long time is that, Justification occurring as many times as needed is the biggest difference from the Reformed. While a Lutheran can "persevere" finally, they can lose their salvation after baptism or not be regenerated at all in baptism, but only by the Word later in life. Then there is no re-baptism. This can be subtle or obvious: someone who has doubts here and there who stops going to church and then comes back vs a rapid atheist who does debates and then reconverts later in life back to Lutheranism --- in neither instance would such a person be re-baptized. So justification and election are not linked like in the Presbyterian view, that's why I'd rather just go with the Presbyterian view of baptism/election but keep the Lutheran christology/real presence. All of the exegetical studies align with the Reformed or Presbyterian view, but the Lutherans I think go along with baptismal regeneration because of maybe the Church Fathers who were more Lutheran as far as I know. The Reformers and the Church fathers didn't have the tools like we do today to figure all of this out nowadays though. They take issue with the Presby view, which I found odd because "time" doesn't exist for God so really if you think about it that way, there is no difference between the Presby view and Lutheran view in terms of election as long as you hold to perseverance. If Lutheranism got rid of that argument that one can lose salvation, it would fit better with all of the modern exegetical studies. Limited atonement/grace, /how many "wills" God has, are still debatable but not grounds for a separate denom from my "modified Lutheranism"/Lucarianism ; it would still be more concrete on doctrine than ACNA.
 
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