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[EternalDragon]

Stability of the sun? I guess you forgot about sunspots and solar flares, the latter which at any time could potentially wipe out life on earth if they get big enough.

Yes, every other star we found is not stable with it's light and heat. If our sun were off by even 1% it would be detrimental for life.

This is what scientists claim allowed life to develop here. The stability of our sun. (Hot stars are rare and most normal stars are cooler than our sun.)

 

[lasthero]

Yes, every other star we found is not stable with it's light and heat.

Source?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Yes, every other star we found is not stable with it's light and heat. If our sun were off by even 1% it would be detrimental for life.

This is what scientists claim allowed life to develop here. The stability of our sun. (Hot stars are rare and most normal stars are cooler than our sun.)

Most stars are roughly the same as our sun, but slightly bigger. The sun is consistently described as an "average" star, literally nothing extraordinary about it. Average age, near average size. Most stars certainly aren't cooler than our sun.

 

[lasthero]

I have deja vu.

 

[EternalDragon]

Source?

There are plenty of stars that "sort of" match our sun but nothing matches it exactly. I'd say that means our sun in unique as far as we know right now.

Most (75%) of stars are younger/smaller than our sun. A few are larger. None are exactly like our sun.

Solar analog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[lasthero]

Most (75%) of stars are younger/smaller than our sun. A few are larger. None are exactly like our sun.[/quote

Where does it say that in the article?

Also, there are trillions upon trillions upon trillions of stars in the universe. I don't think we've observed all of them. I don't even think we can observe all of them.

 

[EternalDragon]

Most (75%) of stars are younger/smaller than our sun. A few are larger. None are exactly like our sun.[/quote

Where does it say that in the article?

Also, there are trillions upon trillions upon trillions of stars in the universe. I don't think we've observed all of them. I don't even think we can observe all of them.

Until then, our star is different than all the others.

 

[lasthero]

Until then, our star is different than all the others.

You're making an argument from ignorance. What you're doing is basically akin to walking into the Biltmore House, examining the foyer, and saying, based on that one, little room, that there aren't any mice in the entire house. You can't look at less than 1% of the universe and make a judgment called about the other 99%. That's ridiculous.

You don't know that. You have nothing to base that statement on. The article you cited doesn't even make that claim. And don't think I neglected to notice that you didn't bother to show where that article supported you.

 

[PsychoSarah]

There are plenty of stars that "sort of" match our sun but nothing matches it exactly. I'd say that means our sun in unique as far as we know right now.

Most (75%) of stars are younger/smaller than our sun. A few are larger. None are exactly like our sun.

Solar analog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Since when does a star have to be 100% exactly the same as ours to support life? There are different orbits planets can have, it wouldn't matter so much of a star gave off less energy if the planet orbited closer to it, or if it gave off more but the planet orbited farther away.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by EternalDragon

Until then, our star is different than all the others.
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You're making an argument from ignorance. What you're doing is basically akin to walking into the Biltmore House, examining the foyer, and saying, based on that one, little room, that there aren't any mice in the entire house. You can't look at less than 1% of the universe and make a judgment called about the other 99%. That's ridiculous.

You don't know that. You have nothing to base that statement on. The article you cited doesn't even make that claim. And don't think I neglected to notice that you didn't bother to show where that article supported you.

Wonder what percentage of "stars" fall to the earth according to biblical prophecy in both the OT and NT.

Young) Daniel 8:10
yea, it exerteth unto the host of the heavens and causeth to fall to the earth of the host and of the stars, and trampleth them down.

Matt 24:29
" Immediately yet after the tribulation of the days, those, the sun shall be being darkened, and the moon not shall be giving the light of it and the Stars shall be falling from the Heaven, and the powers of the Heavens shall be being shaken.
[Reve 6:13]
Reve 6:13
And the Stars of the Heaven fall into the land as fig-tree is casting the shriveleds of her by great wind being shaken.
[Matt 24:9]



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[EternalDragon]

Since when does a star have to be 100% exactly the same as ours to support life? There are different orbits planets can have, it wouldn't matter so much of a star gave off less energy if the planet orbited closer to it, or if it gave off more but the planet orbited farther away.

Do you honestly think it's that simple?

 

[Loudmouth]

He is not here to examine. But even with those, the fact would still remain that he was a 20 some year old male, that was just created with no history, yet with embedded history since he appeared that old from day one. (Aged bones, fully formed organs and muscles, language and thinking abilities built in....etc.)

On day one, would Adam have had healed scars from a bear attack he never suffered? Would he have a calcification on his left tibia from a healed break he never suffered? Would Adam have enamel layers in his teeth consistent with daily deposition as seen in humans today?

 

[crazyforgod1212]

Do you honestly think it's that simple?

Apparently she does.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Do you honestly think it's that simple?

Do you honestly think that life is so limited that only one possible configuration of a solar system could sustain it?

 

[EternalDragon]

Do you honestly think that life is so limited that only one possible configuration of a solar system could sustain it?

Yes. I do not believe for one second that it is possible for nature to make something complex out of nothing. Even if all the goldilocks conditions were in place.

 

[lasthero]

We're talking about conditions that sustain life, not create it. And nobody cares what you believe is or is not possible.

 

[EternalDragon]

We're talking about conditions that sustain life, not create it. And nobody cares what you believe is or is not possible.

I am a born again Christian, on a Christian forum. If you don't like my views or the biblical historical record then you are free to leave. No one is stopping you.

 

[lasthero]

I'm a born again Christian

Don't care. Stay on topic.

 

[Loudmouth]

I am a born again Christian, on a Christian forum. If you don't like my views or the biblical historical record then you are free to leave. No one is stopping you.

The point is that your claims are based on nothing more than your fantasies.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Yes. I do not believe for one second that it is possible for nature to make something complex out of nothing. Even if all the goldilocks conditions were in place.

Dude, this is about whether or not life could exist within solar systems different than our own, not abiogenesis.