My Layering Challenge

[AV1611VET]

Take a look at this picture:

Where did all the dirt come from that covered up each layer of representative life?

 

[Jimmy D]

The devil?

 

[AV1611VET]

The devil?

 

[quatona]

Where did all the dirt come from that covered up each layer of representative life?

From Mexico.

 

[Everybodyknows]

From Mexico.

All the more reason to build that wall!

 

[AV1611VET]

From Mexico.

This is why evolution only looks good on paper.

 

[AV1611VET]

All the more reason to build that wall!

More like a platform: one platform after another.

Evolution apparently doesn't explain how one layer after another ... from simple trilobites to man ... got buried under their own respective layer of dirt.

I'm not sure how deep fossils go, but imagine only ten feet around the earth.

That would equate to what? trillions of grains of dustfall per year?

 

[Nithavela]

I'm not sure how deep fossils go, but imagine only ten feet around the earth.[/quote

You'd imagine wrong.

That would equate to what? trillions of grains of dustfall per year?

Earth isn't formed by dustfall. Most earth is formed by natural erosion of rock strata, which turn into big rocks, which turn into little rocks, which turn into tiny rocks, which turn into silt. Other parts of earth are decayed plant and animal matter and actual, living matter (mostly bacteria).

 

[AV1611VET]

Earth isn't formed by dustfall. Most earth is formed by natural erosion of rock strata, which turn into big rocks, which turn into little rocks, which turn into tiny rocks, which turn into silt. Other parts of earth are decayed plant and animal matter and actual, living matter (mostly bacteria).

So then why don't we see our nearest common ancestors sticking up out of the ground, if they are only covered up gradually as the earth erodes to dust?

And for that matter, what will happen once our tallest mountain turns to dust and buries its last cadre of bones?

Sorry ... I'm not buying this evolution stuff.

Teacher: Okay, kids. Today I'm going to show you how evolution works. Get out a piece of paper and draw 13 horizontal lines. Good. Now, starting at the bottom, write "trilobites," then "nautiloids," then "sea scorpions," then ... "mankind." There you have it. That's an overview of evolution. Remember: each layer got buried under its own layer of dirt as time went on. And all that dirt came from big rocks, which came from big mountains.

Johnny [rolls eyes]: Only on paper.

Teacher: What did you say!? Another remark like that, and you'll go to the principal's office and die there.

 

[Tolworth John]

Where did all the dirt come from that covered up each layer of representative life?

A world wide flood that covered everything to a minimum depth of 50 feet would create enormous tidal forces and currents. Thes swirling across the globe would errode thousands of feet of mateial and deposit it else where.
The geological colum shows what would be expected after a global flood. Layers of different typews of rock sort according to its different weights and containing those creaters whose lack of mobility limited there options to escape the flood water.

 

[AV1611VET]

A world wide flood that covered everything to a minimum depth of 50 feet would create enormous tidal forces and currents. Thes swirling across the globe would errode thousands of feet of mateial and deposit it else where.
The geological colum shows what would be expected after a global flood. Layers of different typews of rock sort according to its different weights and containing those creaters whose lack of mobility limited there options to escape the flood water.

Okay, thanks.

For the record, I don't buy this "hydrological sorting" either.

Too much turmoil in the toy box for fossils to be settling down in a nice, neat vertical pattern of trilobite/dirt/nautiloids/dirt/sea scorpions/dirt/.../man.

 

[Nithavela]

So then why don't we see our nearest common ancestors sticking up out of the ground, if they are only covered up gradually as the earth erodes to dust?

And for that matter, what will happen once our tallest mountain turns to dust and buries its last cadre of bones?

Sorry ... I'm not buying this evolution stuff.

Teacher: Okay, kids. Today I'm going to show you how evolution works. Get out a piece of paper and draw 13 horizontal lines. Good. Now, starting at the bottom, write "trilobites," then "nautiloids," then "sea scorpions," then ... "mankind." There you have it. That's an overview of evolution. Remember: each layer got buried under its own layer of dirt as time went on. And all that dirt came from big rocks, which came from big mountains.

Johnny [rolls eyes]: Only on paper.

Teacher: What did you say!? Another remark like that, and you'll go to the principal's office and die there.

You know that we can actually observe erosion? This is not some far-flung concept, it is visible in real time.

 

[AV1611VET]

You know that we can actually observe erosion? This is not some far-flung concept, it is visible in real time.

So?

Are you saying everything is under a pile of erosion, clear down to the trilobites?

That's a neat trick, seeing as a lot of these layers consist of marine fossils.

How did mountains erode into rocks that eroded into dust and cover up sea scorpions?

 

[Nithavela]

So?

Are you saying everything is under a pile of erosion, clear down to the trilobites?

That's a neat trick, seeing as a lot of these layers consist of marine fossils.

How did mountains erode into rocks that eroded into dust and cover up sea scorpions?

Mostly by rivers transporting those rocks into the ocean (and further eroding them in the process).

 

[Jimmy D]

Evolution apparently doesn't explain how one layer after another ... from simple trilobites to man ... got buried under their own respective layer of dirt.

Why would "evolution" explain geology?

I'm not sure how deep fossils go, but imagine only ten feet around the earth.

That would equate to what? trillions of grains of dustfall per year?

Maybe try a bit of reading on the subject? We all know that you're not an idiot, despite your feigned ignorance.

 

[AV1611VET]

Mostly by rivers transporting those rocks into the ocean (and further eroding them in the process).

Okay, thanks.

Please don't tell me I'm obligated to believe it though.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why would "evolution" explain geology?

Don't slick-talking shrewdnesses of scientists call that "corroboration"?

Maybe try a bit of reading on the subject?

I'm reading everything you guys write here ... so far.

We all know that you're not an idiot, despite your feigned ignorance.

Awww, go on!

You're just trying to butter me up!

 

[Nithavela]

Okay, thanks.

Please don't tell me I'm obligated to believe it though.

You don't have to believe it, you could just turn off the computer, stand up and walk to the nearest river, where you could see it transporting silt and dirt, especially after heavy rainfalls.

Of course, you wouldn't be able to post in your counting threads during this time, so it's propably not going to happen.

Or you could look into the bible, which actually describes the processes of erosion.

 

[Dave RP]

Take a look at this picture:

Where did all the dirt come from that covered up each layer of representative life?

If you drop dead right now and left your body to nature, you won't end up underground like fossils. Scavengers will pull you apart and eat you, you will rot and the rains and ravages of time will remove all traces of you. Even if you were buried at a funeral, you won't become a fossil.

The conditions needed for you to become a fossil are very specific and thus rare. You need to die in a way that scavengers can't reach you, you'll be left alone, and you will be covered by silt or sediment before your bones decompose. This is easier on the bottom of the sea than on land, but sometimes there are places, such as a river delta where erosion and rains wash down the right amounts of the right kinds of silt, and the right kind of geology where the land is sinking so that the sedimentary system will continue for a long time, and a bunch of other factors.

As silt and sediment continues to build up above, and your layer continues to sink, the layers below get squeezed, and over ages become sedimentary rock. If all the variables are perfect (extremely rare) your bones can mineralize as they degrade, leaving behind an impression of their shape, made out of a kind of rock that is different from the surrounding rock - a fossil.

Over more ages, geology might change (continental plates push into reach other, etc) and start pushing those layers of rock up, or sideways, or pushing up ocean floor, including layers of rock below it that once were the floor.

Basically, the rock above and below is sedimentary and was being formed when you wandered into it in such a way that your shape was cast like a mold. Then geological forces over eons can shift areas of the Earth's crust, including pushing up those layers of rock formed out of ancient sediments

 

[Larniavc]

Take a look at this picture:

Where did all the dirt come from that covered up each layer of representative life?

Deposited from suspension.