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The trouble is that so many want it taught in the science class as well.
Prior to the Scopes monkey trial and the public menace, Madalyn Murray O’hairs lawsuit, it was
 
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Prior to the Scopes monkey trial and the public menace, Madalyn Murray O’hairs lawsuit, it was

And it was bad that it took so many court trials to get it place where it belongs: religious education and Sunday school.

Also: 'public menace'? Not a foggiest of a clue to what that refers to.
 
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The trouble is that so many want it taught in the science class as well.

If you're talking about creationism, it has no place in science class.

Instead, it should be taught in history class.
 
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When the results came back, I'd probably proceed to lay a law suit on the examiner for being unfit to continue holding that position!

Is that welcomed?

I believe something to that effect happened in 1925.

History tends to repeat itself, does it not?
 
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On the third day of the creation week, Earth consisted of one giant ball of seawater.

Let's call it Terra Aqua, for lack of a better term.

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Then God commanded the atoms to get together and form land.

Then He commanded the waters to stand aside and let the land come to the surface.

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Here's my question:

Are we expected to believe that that land consisted of millions and millions of years' worth of layers of fossils?

Including fossils of plants, which said plants weren't even created until later in the day?

I contend that God created only ONE LAYER, and calls that layer "Earth."

Not Hadean, Archean, Proterozoic, Paleozoic, Mesozoic, Cenozoic, or any other kind of "zoic".

"Earth"

What say you?
The more people try to elaborate on the creation story, the more obviously mythical it seems.
 
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The more people try to elaborate on the creation story, the more obviously mythical it seems.

And I think that's by design.

I personally think God "jumbled up" the creation events, knowing that in the last days cosmic evolution would become the norm throughout academia.

In other words, the more cosmic evolution becomes clear, the less the creation events become literal, and the more faith would be required to believe it.
 
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And I think that's by design.

I personally think God "jumbled up" the creation events, knowing that in the last days cosmic evolution would become the norm throughout academia.

In other words, the more cosmic evolution becomes clear, the less the creation events become literal, and the more faith would be required to believe it.

"Jumbled up"? What?

I don't think the resulting literary structure of Genesis 1 had anything to do with God knowing ahead of time that the Darwin and Wallace families would come on the scene during the 19th century.

No, I think it had prophetic importance for what was going on in the world at the time Moses was writing, along with other later Jewish scribes who also wrote during their own time.
 
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"Jumbled up"? What?

Remember my creation test I made up?

Here's one of the questions:

5. Put the following in order that they appeared in the universe: whales, stars, trees, sun, land, sea, outer space.

Academia teaches:
  1. outer space
  2. stars
  3. sun
  4. land
  5. sea
  6. trees
  7. whales
The Bible teaches:
  1. outer space
  2. sea
  3. land
  4. trees
  5. sun
  6. stars
  7. whales
Adam would, of course, have no idea what order God created them, as he wasn't around yet.

Yet he wrote the order as it is in the Bible.

Where did he get that information?

From God, of course.

And note how the two lists differ from one another.

Compared to academia's list, the Bible's list would appear "jumbled up," would it not?
 
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Remember my creation test I made up?

Here's one of the questions:

5. Put the following in order that they appeared in the universe: whales, stars, trees, sun, land, sea, outer space.

Academia teaches:
  1. outer space
  2. stars
  3. sun
  4. land
  5. sea
  6. trees
  7. whales
The Bible teaches:
  1. outer space
  2. sea
  3. land
  4. trees
  5. sun
  6. stars
  7. whales
Adam would, of course, have no idea what order God created them, as he wasn't around yet.

Yet he wrote the order as it is in the Bible.

Where did he get that information?

From God, of course.

And note how the two lists differ from one another.

Compared to academia's list, the Bible's list would appear "jumbled up," would it not?

We don't know that Adam---if he even existed-----wrote anything whatsoever. So, imputing "that information" to a legendary Adam isn't exactly showing the best of what Christians can do in valuing the entirety of the Book of Genesis.

But here's the thing: I've already addressed what I think about the first 11 chapters of Genesis, but unlike others here, I have little interest in bantering back and forth on all of this continuously. It's enough for me to have historical belief and faith that Jesus is the Lord, that He died for my sins, and literally rose again from the dead.

Have a blessed weekend, AV!

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So you just have slogans and sound bites.

Got it.

Maybe if you had those slogans and sound bites too, you would understand what I mean when I say I think God "jumbled up" the order of His creation to make it stand out more in the end times?
 
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Maybe if you had those slogans and sound bites too, you would understand what I mean when I say I think God "jumbled up" the order of His creation to make it stand out more in the end times?
This is not a serious discussion. Why do you make these threads and then check out of them when pressed? Every time.

Your "theories" don't make any sense and are not even supported by the holy book you claim to believe in completely and totally, so much as to deny literal reality you yourself can see.

You're literally making up your own reality and then gaslighting everyone who questions it. It's just not productive or valuable.
 
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You're literally making up your own reality and then gaslighting everyone who questions it. It's just not productive or valuable.

AI Overview, cosmic evolution chart from Harvard, and Wikipedia can all take a hike, can't they? ;)
 
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