My Irreducible Complexity Challenge

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

Do you think God likes being mocked?

Let God stand up for Himself, I'm sure He can do that if He sees the need.

 

[AV1611VET]

What? Why?

Because those who argue against IC say it doesn't matter if parts fall off or not, just use the thing it fell off of as something else.

Got a mousetrap that has a piece missing?

No problem, it can be used as a tie clip.

Until of course, it involves them, then it's a different story.

I'll bet an atheist sitting on a 747 that's flying down the runway and seeing a part fall off would probably get saved before the plane even lifted off.

 

[AV1611VET]

People exist.

God is not a person?

 

[VirOptimus]

Because those who argue against IC say it doesn't matter if parts fall off or not, just use the thing it fell off of as something else.

Got a mousetrap that has a piece missing?

No problem, it can be used as a tie clip.

Until of course, it involves them, then it's a different story.

I'll bet an atheist sitting on a 747 that's flying down the runway and seeing a part fall off would probably get saved before the plane even lifted off.

No, its just you who dont understand the science.

 

[Loudmouth]

Because those who argue against IC say it doesn't matter if parts fall off or not, just use the thing it fell off of as something else.

Got a mousetrap that has a piece missing?

No problem, it can be used as a tie clip.

Until of course, it involves them, then it's a different story.

I'll bet an atheist sitting on a 747 that's flying down the runway and seeing a part fall off would probably get saved before the plane even lifted off.

When you see a daddy 747 and a mommy 747 making a baby 747, let us know. Until then, your argument has nothing to stand on.

 

[VirOptimus]

God is not a person?

I dont belive in the existence of god(s).

 

[AV1611VET]

Let God stand up for Himself, I'm sure He can do that if He sees the need.

He will ... during the Tribulation period.

 

[miknik5]

People exist.

Yes people exist but not all people know the SPIRIT of GOD therefore do not know how to do what is pleasing to HIM

 

[miknik5]

I can't find an emoticon to represent Philippians 4

 

[AV1611VET]

When you see a daddy 747 and a mommy 747 making a baby 747, let us know. Until then, your argument has nothing to stand on.

It's not an argument ... it's a challenge.

All you have to do is post an emoticon of what you think your reaction would be.

You're good at hiring artists to draw pictures of cavemen huddled around fires with their families, with the purpose of propagating your philosophy.

Let's see an emoticon or two from you guys as to how irreducibly complex a 747 is.

 

[Loudmouth]

It's not an argument ... it's a challenge.

Then you don't have a challenge until you show me two 747 parents producing a baby 747.

 

[AV1611VET]

I dont belive in the existence of god(s).

And that gives you an exemption from mocking Him? even subconsciously?

 

[AV1611VET]

I can't find an emoticon to represent Philippians 4

That's okay.

Philippians 4 isn't a 747.

 

[VirOptimus]

And that gives you an exemption from mocking Him? even subconsciously?

Why would I mock something I dont belive in?

Please, quote where I did so.

 

[Larniavc]

If I remember correctly, the argument against Irreducible Complexity says that Irreducible Complexity is a poor argument because you can remove a piece from a mousetrap and use it as a tie clip.

Well ... if that's so ... let's see the expression on the faces of those who argue against Irreducible Complexity if they see a piece of a 747 removed from a plane they are on.

I'll bet they'd scramble for the exits if the plane stopped.

But the plane coukd be used as an inefficient land carriage: rendering it not an IC system.

 

[miknik5]

That's okay.

Philippians 4 isn't a 747.

But the emotional response for the situation is there nontheless

The peace of GOD which surpasses all understanding shall guard our heart and our mind IN CHRIST JESUS

That is my response

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

He will ... during the Tribulation period.

Well, then, why are we trying to help Him now?

 

[miknik5]

Well, then, why are we trying to help Him now?

Help HIM to do what? I thought HE is SOVEREIGN

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

People exist.

Sir, I don't know if you're interested in this conversation at all or not - tell me straight if not, please. Do you think that we can see in nature, an intelligence of unimaginable complexity and harmony, that we can call "laws of nature", or "God" as a personified and anthropomorphic entity. No matter how we approach this phenomenon that we both do observe, and not matter in which terms we express the same idea. Do you think so? Thinking most most broadly. I know you probably reject "God" as an "old man in heaven" idea, but not in its manifestation in the utmost perfection, balance, consistency and beauty in the world we know? If you understand what I mean.

You know, there's been sooo much fighting-fighting just for the sake of fighting, or playing all sorts of games from all sides for whatever self-puffing reasons, that sometimes I get tired and just want to sit down and find a common ground of our humanity and zeal to know more. I'm sincere.

 

[AV1611VET]

But the plane coukd be used as an inefficient land carriage: rendering it not an IC system.

Maybe that's what the flight attendants could be trained to tell the passengers to calm them down ... ya think?

Evolutionist1: Hey, Joe, wasn't that an engine part I just saw fall off?
Evolutionist2: Oh, oh. ABORT TAKEOFF! ABORT TAKEOFF!
Flight Attendant: Don't worry, sir. These things become land carriages when things like this happen.
Evolutionist2: Whew! Thanks!
Captain: This is your captain speaking, brace for impact!
Evolultionist1: Here we go. L'Aquila all over again!