My homosexuality

[Lilac]

Dearest Wildfire:

We love you on the forum, and you can go to us anytime, O.K.? You can P.M. me anytime --I am a newbie but if you know how,I'm always here for you, O.K. I would love to help you with your struggle.

I really feel your being attracted to men probably has to do with your family, your mom or dad being unavailable or whatever your circumstance were. You must know it is not you, but rather, how you were raised.

God loves you and has a plan for your life. Please don't forget this, no matter what. His plan is for you is to be successful, have a wonderful life, be married some day, have children, and love and serve him. Please, dear one, do not succomb to your interest in boys--other men--it will only bring you much grief. What grade are you in? Please go to your counselor and talk to them, and also go to a church nearby and talk to you pastor. I know many parents don't bring their kids to church, but you are old enough now to find a good church near you and go to it. If you are in school, please find out everything you can do to be involved in your school. I know sometimes we don't always get the parents we should get, they have so many problems of their own, so many concerns. But you must never forget God loves you dearest, and He's right there for you to talk to day or night. You are precious in His sight, and I'm giving you a hug right now---as if you were my son.

God Bless You~~~

 

[R2_Wildfire]

Well, I have a great family. I was raised a good kid and never had a problem with my parents.i go to church and evrything. That's why it's such a huge problem. I started the Door of Hope thing today so pray that it works for me.

 

[Susan]

Just remember that God loves you. He's not a conditional judge with a checklist going "all right, wildfire had a thought about another guy today, all right, wildfire did this, wildfire did that, blah, blah." God sees you through what Christ did for you on the cross once and for all-meaning, that He sees you as forgiven once and for all.

 

[hrodas]

This is a really huge attempt for me to get help with my problem. I am 15 years old. I have been a Christian for 5 years although there was a period where I was separated. Since the age of 12, have been slowly been plagued by homosexuality. It was really slow at first and I really didn't see it that way until now. At this point I feel that my homosexual desires are out of control. I feel attraction to many men and I try not to but I can't. It's to he point where I'm seriously thinking to find myself a boyfriend. It's just too strong. I know what the Bible teaches about it and I believe it but I just can't overcome it. It's not like I act like that around people. I love my friends in the love of Christ and I let no emotions within me affect what I feel for my friends. It's still an attraction. I wasn't ever abused or touched or anything like that. It's to the point where a couple nights ago, I dreamt one of the guys I'm attracted to at school was my boyfriend. I really need help. I feel that if I don't conquer this soon that I may be overtaken by it and lose what I have in the Lord. I don't want to lose it but it's too much. Please help. Please. Pray

Fast and Pray. you have a problem and you are confused.
1) God made you the way you are, A MAN.
2) You are not supposed to live a life of celibacy like the second post described.
3) according to the Bible, homosexuality is a sin. an aberration of the human mind. Read Romans 1:1-31, so you as a christian must struggle. dont let anyone confuse you.

put the whole armor of God, you have to resist little brother. But you are not Alone, God is with you, let him help you. try making more friends with girls, and stay away from the things that tempt you,that is boys.
you are confusing friendship with other kind of things.

be careful little brother, the devil is ready to try to make you fall, do not let him do so. GOD is with you and he is stronger than him. you can do all thing through Christ, he will give you strength! (Phil 4:13)
again FAST and PRAY. seek counsel from your local pastor and family...
our prayers will be with you!
in the love of Christ!

 

[Lilac]

Wildfire:

I will most certainly pray that the Door of Hope works. You know what? It will if you want it to!!!

God Bless You!!

 

[AfricaWim]

It is great that you are actively doing something about it. Most people walk around hiding their problems from the world and (they think) God.
Respect!!
Be prayin for you too bud.

 

[Maranatha123]

My son, this is an evil spirit trying to get a hold on you life. the devil came to steal kill and destroy and no doubt he is trying to destroy you. What i can tell u to do, and God bless you this is a good step admitting and wanting help but go to a Pastor and some elders if u not comfortable confiding in the local church where u attend look for another one, one u know who is holy ghost filled a true man of God and let him know. let him lay his hands on you and anoint you with oil and rebuke that spirt to homosexuality. In the name of Jesus demons have to flee. U need to speak to that feeling and rebuke it in the name of Jesus bid it hance depart. sometimes we pray about situations but we also have to speak to it and command it to go. the bible says whosoever say to this mountain be thou removed and go in to the sea with faith believing it shall be done. speak to it. My brother read the word constantly, Ps 91, Ps 103, Ps27 read the word yeild yourself more to God, dedicate yourself to assisting in the church you attend. Let the devil know he is a liar. I will remember u in my prayer. pray on brother. For with God all things are possible. Mark 10:27.
Keep on keeping on and DONT GIVE IN TO THESE FEELINGS. FIGHT BROTHER FIGHT.

 

[artybloke]

lesbian & gay christian movement

I know you're American, but I suggest you look at this site as an alternative view.

God loves you.

 

[Bonhoffer]

From the point of veiw of controlling lustful desires you are in the same place as many heterosexual Christian men. Lust is sin- full stop !! Remember that if you were looking at a woman "lustfully" you would be "commiting adultry with her in your heart".

The main difference for you is that hetrosexual men are still allowed to have girlfriends, fall in love and have sex. (once they are married) It must also be difficult because of many peoples prejudiced veiw of gay people. I think you have to find a really good adult Christian who you can trust to help you with this. Maybe even a fellow gay Christian.

I am glad that you have recognised homosexual acts to be wrong; however do not wallow in guilt or shame about this. You are no worse than any other human being. In fact I am impressed with how you have dealt with it up until now. You have resisted strong temptations to seek relationships with other men.

One question (and please don't take offence at this); Are you saved by the blood of Jesus ? If yes then Jesus has already taken you guilt and shame away. Any guilt/shame complex that develops now is from Satan. If you are saved then YOU are going to Heaven Your sexuality, or even what you do with it will not land you in hell.
Your battle against your sexual desires is not to earn Gods love or get into heaven; its to simply honour your saviour. If you do fall, which you will, then you are in the same situation as every other Christian. I masterbated over women today, smoked a cigerette and swore a few times. I wish I hadnt. But it happened.

Take my advice. Give it to God. With man things are impossible, with God everything is possible.

 

[Brandus]

Fast and Pray. you have a problem and you are confused.
1) God made you the way you are, A MAN.
2) You are not supposed to live a life of celibacy like the second post described.
3) according to the Bible, homosexuality is a sin. an aberration of the human mind. Read Romans 1:1-31, so you as a christian must struggle. dont let anyone confuse you.

Wildfire, you must question the value of accepting advice from someone who has no idea what it's like to be you. How can a 30 year old heterosexual male give meaningful advice to a male homosexual teenager? You are in different worlds.

1) God made you the way you are, a gay man. Isiah 29:16 "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, "He did not make me"? Can the pot say of the potter, "He knows nothing"?"

2) 1st Corinthians 7, states that it is good for a man not to be married. An unmarried (celibate) man has his mind set on what the Lord desires, not on what his wife desires. It is not required, but it is not "wrong" for a man to remain celibate.

3) If you only focus on Paul's condemnation of homosexuality, then you are wrong, because Paul's message was that grace comes by faith and not by observing the Law. Galatians 2:21 : "...For if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"

We will not be able to stand before the throne of Judgement and be justified by saying "I never desired a man"? No, James 2:10 says "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it". Our only defense will be that we believed in Jesus. We are not going to be any more holy by pretending to be straight.

try making more friends with girls, and stay away from the things that tempt you,that is boys. you are confusing friendship with other kind of things.

I don't understand. You want him to be a big strong heterosexual man like you, but you want him to avoid all male contact and hang around girls only? What kind of advice is that for a teenage boy? You want him to have no male friends? Is that normal?

Wildfire, IM a 21 year old gay man, and I've been through what you're going through. You aren't going to find peace by listening to people who think you are some evil demonic force even before they meet you. By the time I was 18, I had spent half my life wishing I wasn't gay. The only result was that most of my teenage years were incredibly miserable.

Some things I found that gave me peace are to remember that no matter how strong your urges get, God knows exactly how you feel. You are never alone. He is always God and will always love you no matter where you are or what you're doing.

Another thing that gave me peace is to pray that God knows exactly how you feel, and if he wants you to be with a man, he will lead you to one. I am not with a man now and I am alright with that because I feel that is where God wants me to be right now. I may or may not ever be with one. I'm going to leave that to God. Sometimes the urges feel unbearable, I know. But we have to remember that all of us have failed to control ourselves at some point, and that's why He died for us. It is the sign of a mature relationship with God if we can accept and return his love even though we are sinners, and the relationship is completely one-sided. We are the dependant ones here.

Lastly, Jesus' overwhelming emphasis was to love your neighbor as yourself. Being gay doesn't stop us from caring deeply about those less fortunate, and leading others to Christ by our love and actions of caring for others. If people think you are some demon for being gay, prove them wrong by imitating christ all the more passionately, try to out-love, out-care, and out-humble them, so they can't argue.

 

[jhonan]

Lastly, Jesus' overwhelming emphasis was to love your neighbor as yourself. Being gay doesn't stop us from caring deeply about those less fortunate, and leading others to Christ by our love and actions of caring for others. If people think you are some demon for being gay, prove them wrong by imitating christ all the more passionately, try to out-love, out-care, and out-humble them, so they can't argue.

Hear hear!

 

[charligirl]

1) God made you the way you are, a gay man. Isiah 29:16 "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, "He did not make me"? Can the pot say of the potter, "He knows nothing"?"

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Yes God makes people but I do not belive that God makes people gay, there is no proof that sexuality is genetic and 'God created them Male and Female' Personally I find this a very dangerous premise for your advice.

I am 33 and female so you might just dismiss my advice, but I have spent many hours and many days speaking with and praying for gay christian men, I have looked into the whole area in much detail and I can see absolutely no biblical backing for what you are saying.

 

[Karl - Liberal Backslider]

The important point is not whether homosexuality is genetic [tangent](and whilst there's no "proof" the correlation is extremely strong)[/tangent] the important point is that people do not make themselves gay.

I'm always very suspicious of people who are not in this position being so sure about the best way for people who are.

 

[charligirl]

The important point is not whether homosexuality is genetic [tangent](and whilst there's no "proof" the correlation is extremely strong)[/tangent] the important point is that people do not make themselves gay.
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Absolutely that is important, people do not make themselves gay, neither does God.

 

[Susan]

Both sides have said their part, and now, before this becomes a nasty flamewar with no relevance to the OP at all, I am exercising moderator discretion and closing it.