This only shows that David had to use Goliath's sword to cut his head off. The story is quite clear that Goliath was smote with a sling and a stone.
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This only shows that David had to use Goliath's sword to cut his head off. The story is quite clear that Goliath was smote with a sling and a stone.
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You left an important verb out of the story, didn't you?
1 Samuel 17:51 Therefore David ran, and stood upon the Philistine, and took his sword, and drew it out of the sheath thereof, and slew him, and cut off his head therewith.
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It can be difficult to know when people are really dead. There have been decapitated people that have had their head sown back on again. But that is very rare and under most conditions not going to happen. If they had cut Jesus head off then how could He have raised from the dead? Of course God was watching over that situation so something like that would not happen. That is why we talk about the permissive will of God. He can cause all things to work out for the best. Even when Joseph's brothers sold him into slavery. He said they meant it for evil, but God used it for good.
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Basically pulling an Obama (Thanks Calminian!)
Worth pointing out here that the two verse use different tenses, hiphil imperfect וימיתהו in verse 50 and polel imperfect מת in verse 51. I don't know enough Hebrew to distinguish the different meanings, but the writer seems to be saying more than simply repeating that David killed him.
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Nah, I didn't. The sword doesn't play any part in the killing of Goliath, because the story states very clearly that Goliath had been SLAIN before David even touched the sword!
1 Samuel 17:50 So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and smote the Philistine, and slew him; but there was no sword in the hand of David.
See? The story quite clearly says that David slew Goliath, and then immediately afterwards makes it very clear that David was not holding a sword at the time. If Goliath was only slain by the sword, then how did David do it if he hadn't touched the sword by that point?
And once again, I point out that the story states very clearly that David slew Goliath long before he ever touched that sword.
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Ya huh. And where did John Wesley find this out? Did he examine the records from the battle? Or did he just read the Bible and come up with some speculation that he decided must be true because it answered the question (even though it required some stretched interpretations)?
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Mas sabe el diablo por viejo que por diablo.
I think it's neat when internet theologians and "Bible literalists" show us that the Bible can't be taken literally or that it has errors and contradictions.
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Do you know what a paradox is? The only errors are in the attempt people make to understand the Bible themselves rather then to allow God to do a work in their life to help them to understand. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 2cor5:17
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In other words, the Bible says it is true, and so the Bible must be true. We know this because the Bible says it is true.
In a related topic, I have a piece of paper that says, "I, George Clooney, wrote this sentence on this piece of paper." So George Clooney MUST have done it, because if George didn't, then that means George was lying when he wrote it.
In a related topic, I have a piece of paper that says, "I, George Clooney, wrote this sentence on this piece of paper." So George Clooney MUST have done it, because if George didn't, then that means George was lying when he wrote it.
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Mas sabe el diablo por viejo que por diablo.
My point exactly that the Bible can't be read literally and have it make sense without contradictions and other problems.
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The Bible teaches us various ways that we can know the truth. For one the truth sets us free.
John 8:32 (NKJV)
And you shall know the truth,
and the truth shall make you free.”
We know the Bible is true because in 3500 years
no one has ever shown the Bible NOT to be true.
This is what is known as the test of time.
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I understand the Bible to be literal.
I will ask you for a second time
do you know the difference between a contradiction and a paradox?
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Mas sabe el diablo por viejo que por diablo.
Yes. Do you understand what "literal" means? If we need to interpret the words to mean something other than what they are, then we're not reading it literally now, are we? Or are you saying Goliath was "slain" twice?
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