My Genesis 2 Challenge

[Colter]

Most Christians also ignore that God said Kind after Kind, not Kind into other Kind....

Those who reject Christ on any interpretation of Genesis will reject him anyways, since Jesus repeatedly referred back to Genesis.... and that layman's interpretation...

No, they are condemned because in later times wolves in Sheep's clothing infiltrated the flock and led many astray...... but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles… They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator.... They put their wisdom above God's, who declared time after time, Kind after Kind.... Not directed at anyone specific....

Jesus wouldn't have referred back to Genesis as a true portrayal of creation, he knew much of the Old Testament was exaggerated human opinion, speculation and conjecture. It was self exalting history revisionism concocted by the Hebrew priesthood who organized much of the OT framework that exists today. He did however extract common spiritual truths from the scriptures as he had actually read and studied them whereas his apostles obviously had not.

The Gospels were written by men with a Jewish bias. There was some hope and motivation to further show Jesus was the hoped for Jewish Messiah so that Israel would get converted.

 

[AV1611VET]

The Gospels were written by men with a Jewish bias.

I'd say your Primary Master Force Organizers of Paradise musta looked the other way when the Bible was written and completed in AD 96.

Then they must have been asleep when God refined It and gave us the AV330 Gothic Version.

Then they must have been asleep when God refined That and gave us the AV700 Anglo-Saxon Bible.

They they must have been asleep when God refined That and gave us the AV1389 Wycliffe Bible.

Then they must have been asleep when God refined That and gave us the AV1525 Tyndale Bible.

Then they must have been asleep when God refined That and gave the Pilgrims the AV1560 Geneva.

Then they must have been asleep when God refined That and gave us the AV1568 Bishop's Bible.

Then they must have been asleep when God rifined that and gave us His last Translation, the One whose template is in Heaven: the AV1611 King James Bible.

Or, as Elijah would say about your Master Force Organizers:

1 Kings 18:27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

 

[Colter]

I'd say your Primary Master Force Organizers of Paradise musta looked the other way when the Bible was written and completed in AD 96.

Then they must have been asleep when God refined It and gave us the AV330 Gothic Version.

Then they must have been asleep when God refined That and gave us the AV700 Anglo-Saxon Bible.

They they must have been asleep when God refined That and gave us the AV1389 Wycliffe Bible.

Then they must have been asleep when God refined That and gave us the AV1525 Tyndale Bible.

Then they must have been asleep when God refined That and gave the Pilgrims the AV1560 Geneva.

Then they must have been asleep when God refined That and gave us the AV1568 Bishop's Bible.

Then they must have been asleep when God rifined that and gave us His last Translation, the One whose template is in Heaven: the AV1611 King James Bible.

Or, as Elijah would say about your Master Force Organizers:

1 Kings 18:27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

Man and celestials have free will. else Satan couldn't have fooled the whole world.

Sometimes children get raped and murdered, God lets that happen.

Sometimes man has committed great atrocities, God lets that happen.

Sometimes proud religious people write scripture books about themselves, God lets that happen.

Sometimes religious people sought to kill the Son of God, thinking they were doing a service to the God of their scriptures. God let that happen to.


God didn't write the scripture books, man did.

 

[Aman777]

According to Genesis 1, God made the animals (presumably including apes), and then he made humans.

False, since God created Adam/mankind eternally in Genesis 1:27. In order to them to be born again Spiritually, they had to first be made physically. That happened on the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants herbs and rain. Genesis 2:4-7 Your false notion is therefore, soundly refuted, Scripturally. Try again?

 

[Kylie]

False, since God created Adam/mankind eternally in Genesis 1:27. In order to them to be born again Spiritually, they had to first be made physically. That happened on the 3rd Day BEFORE the plants herbs and rain. Genesis 2:4-7 Your false notion is therefore, soundly refuted, Scripturally. Try again?

1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Sorry, I can't seem to find the word "ETERNALLY" in there. Could you point it out to me?

 

[Colter]

The spirit born child of faith is potentially eternal. But not every acorn becomes a tree. Some people don’t want to be loyal to a God, some don’t want to survive and continue on.

The “image of God” refers to having the pure spirit of the Father within our minds like the Paradise Trinity has the Universal Father.

 

[Aman777]

1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Sorry, I can't seem to find the word "ETERNALLY" in there. Could you point it out to me?

Sure. It's because the words "God created" are used. God is Hebrew word "Elohim" and is a plural name of God the Trinity. When God the Trinity "creates" it's ALWAYS Eternal. God the invisible Spirit, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit create eternally. Created beings are immortal and destined to live forever in Heaven. That's "Their kinds".

Lord God/YHWH is the name of the Son in the Old Testament. It's Jesus, the only God ever formed physically or that ever will be formed physically. Jesus is God physically and the only God you will ever see. He is the incarnation of the Invisible Spirit of Love.

Jesus uses the physical elements (air, dust and water) which God the Spirit created in the beginning and makes or forms temporary beings who are subject to death. Mankind was formed by the Hands of Jesus. We are His kinds. In order to become immortal, we MUST be born again Spiritually, Eternally by God the Trinity. Genesis 1:27 Genesis 5:1-2 and John 14:16 That's God's Truth Scripturally.

 

[Aman777]

The “image of God” refers to having the pure spirit of the Father within our minds like the Paradise Trinity has the Universal Father.

Occam's Razor for being too complicated. The "image of God" is Jesus, Col 1:15 called YHWH/Lord God in the O.T. To be created in Christ Spiritually is to be created in the "Image of God".

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Jesus wouldn't have referred back to Genesis as a true portrayal of creation, he knew much of the Old Testament was exaggerated human opinion, speculation and conjecture. It was self exalting history revisionism concocted by the Hebrew priesthood who organized much of the OT framework that exists today. He did however extract common spiritual truths from the scriptures as he had actually read and studied them whereas his apostles obviously had not.

The Gospels were written by men with a Jewish bias. There was some hope and motivation to further show Jesus was the hoped for Jewish Messiah so that Israel would get converted.

People say lots of things about what Jesus believed, but why not listen to what he said instead?

“If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things.” The latter reads, “46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote of Me. 47 But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?””

Did Jesus Teach That Extraordinary Old Testament Events Were Literal, Historical Accounts? - Truth Snitch

I don’t think he taught anything written was allegorical....

 

[Justatruthseeker]

The spirit born child of faith is potentially eternal. But not every acorn becomes a tree. Some people don’t want to be loyal to a God, some don’t want to survive and continue on.

The “image of God” refers to having the pure spirit of the Father within our minds like the Paradise Trinity has the Universal Father.

The image of God IS mind.....

For he has become like one of Us knowing good and bad. Now lest he ALSO stretch forth his hand and eat of the tree of life and live forever......

This is the only passage in the Bible that tells us what the image we were made in was. The original image contained nothing bad.....

God is Energy, pure Mind...... Thought.....

Mind is what led to the flood... his thoughts are continually evil......

And is what transformation is all about...

“And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind....”

 

[Colter]

The image of God IS mind.....

For he has become like one of Us knowing good and bad. Now lest he ALSO stretch forth his hand and eat of the tree of life and live forever......

This is the only passage in the Bible that tells us what the image we were made in was. The original image contained nothing bad.....

God is Energy, pure Mind...... Thought.....

Mind is what led to the flood... his thoughts are continually evil......

And is what transformation is all about...

“And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind....”

Eve mixed her will with Gods plan, that was the sin. Thousands of years later holy men speculated about death coming to the world when it was specifically for Adam and Eve who were incarnate celestials on our evolved, previously populated earth. Because they did not remain loyal to Gods wishes for the pair, hey lost their immortality status. They couldn't eat from the special tree of life anymore. Death is normal.

 

[Colter]

People say lots of things about what Jesus believed, but why not listen to what he said instead?

“If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things.” The latter reads, “46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote of Me. 47 But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?””

Did Jesus Teach That Extraordinary Old Testament Events Were Literal, Historical Accounts? - Truth Snitch

I don’t think he taught anything written was allegorical....

I don't think Jesus was always accurately remembered, and there was a bias towards getting the Jews to believe in Jesus when they wrote the gospels.

The flood was an invention of the Hebrew priesthood who were trying to trace their pretentious bloodlines back to Adam whom they assumed was the first human.

 

[Colter]

Occam's Razor for being too complicated. The "image of God" is Jesus, Col 1:15 called YHWH/Lord God in the O.T. To be created in Christ Spiritually is to be created in the "Image of God".

Trinity = Father-Son-Spirit.

Man=Body-Mind-Father fragment

 

[AV1611VET]

Man=Body-Mind-Father fragment

No soul?

Is he winding his way down Baker Street?

 

[Colter]

No soul?

Is he winding his way down Baker Street?

Does the Trinity have a soul?

 

[AV1611VET]

Does the Trinity have a soul?

I don't know.

 

[Kylie]

Sure. It's because the words "God created" are used. God is Hebrew word "Elohim" and is a plural name of God the Trinity. When God the Trinity "creates" it's ALWAYS Eternal. God the invisible Spirit, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit create eternally. Created beings are immortal and destined to live forever in Heaven. That's "Their kinds".

Lord God/YHWH is the name of the Son in the Old Testament. It's Jesus, the only God ever formed physically or that ever will be formed physically. Jesus is God physically and the only God you will ever see. He is the incarnation of the Invisible Spirit of Love.

Jesus uses the physical elements (air, dust and water) which God the Spirit created in the beginning and makes or forms temporary beings who are subject to death. Mankind was formed by the Hands of Jesus. We are His kinds. In order to become immortal, we MUST be born again Spiritually, Eternally by God the Trinity. Genesis 1:27 Genesis 5:1-2 and John 14:16 That's God's Truth Scripturally.

So how do you know it's always eternal? Where does it say in the Bible that that particular phrasing means "eternal"?

 

[Justatruthseeker]

No soul?

Is he winding his way down Baker Street?

No soul.....

The Bible doesn’t say man was given a soul. It says he “became” a living being (soul).

The same word is applied to the animals as well. That “knowing” good and bad is the only thing different between us.

 

[Justatruthseeker]

Does the Trinity have a soul?

No such thing.....

That’s a later heretical teaching that crept into the church from Egyptian sources.....

To us there is one God..... the Father...... which is why He made it clear that there was “no other”

 

[Colter]

No such thing.....

That’s a later heretical teaching that crept into the church from Egyptian sources.....

To us there is one God..... the Father...... which is why He made it clear that there was “no other”

God the Absolute is expressed in the Paradise Trinity, an indistinguishable unity. The Trinity is the source of the Creator Sons who go out and establish their own creations. Our Creator Son Christ Michael incarnate as Jesus of Nazareth.

Every new revelation of truth is seen as a "heresy" by the pigheaded fundamentalists who petrified the old revelations into inflexible dogma. Jesus ran into tradition bound religious fanatics as well as the prophets before him.

If we learned anything from the tragic experience of the Jews and Jesus its "keep an open mind"!