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Here, I'll make it easy for you:It really was a simple question which you don't need to dance around - at the time Paul was writing, what did "doulos" mean?
It did, indeed, mean slave. So your assertion that Paul never called himself a slave is demonstrably incorrect.Here, I'll make it easy for you:
I'll take a guess and say "doulos" meant "slave".
If not, I'll take another guess and say it meant "one who should be beaten for fun at one's leisure."
Am I close?
Then show me the source document, or admit you're taking it at faith value.It did, indeed, mean slave. So your assertion that Paul never called himself a slave is demonstrably incorrect.
Huh? You think the translators just made up Paul's letter to the Romans?Then show me the source document, or admit you're taking it at faith value.
What translators? the King James translators? they wrote "servant."Huh? You think the translators just made up Paul's letter to the Romans?
I didn't ask what word William Barlow's team chose to use 1600 years after Paul wrote the letter, I asked what the word meant at the time Paul wrote it.What translators? the King James translators? they wrote "servant."
Remember my former post?
DeepL Translator: The world's most accurate translator, translated it thusly:
The King James translators used "servant," so why do you want me to use "slave"?
- Christ's servant
- slave of Christ
Romans 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
Don't know.I didn't ask what word William Barlow's team chose to use 1600 years after Paul wrote the letter, I asked what the word meant at the time Paul wrote it.
Don't know.
You seem to think it was that Greek you posted.
Assuming Paul even wrote it in Greek, it probably meant what it means today: "slave" or "servant."
You have to assume too that Paul even used that ambiguous word.
In any event, I don't care what word he used.
If it differs from the King James Bible, it's wrong in any language.
And there we have it - you know exactly what the word Paul used meant, but you're not prepared to admit it.Don't know.
You seem to think it was that Greek you posted.
Assuming Paul even wrote it in Greek, it probably meant what it means today: "slave" or "servant."
You have to assume too that Paul even used that ambiguous word.
In any event, I don't care what word he used.
If it differs from the King James Bible, it's wrong in any language.
I'm not going to belabor this much longer.And there we have it - you know exactly what the word Paul used meant, but you're not prepared to admit it.
Bibliolatry is a sin.
You found his letter to the Romans!? was it lying next to the Shroud of Turin?
And the answer to post 209 is?I'm not going to belabor this much longer.
You posted a Greek word and asked me what it meant.
Twice, I told you what it means.
Third time: "slave" or "servant".
You want to claim that that is the exact word used by Paul, and I'm more than willing to agree with you for the sake of arguing; but I want to make it clear that you don't have the source document, so not only do you not know what word Paul used, you don't even know what language it was.
Anyway, I'm willing, for the sake of argument, to say it was the word you posted.
But now, you want me to agree with you that it was "slave", and you're outvoted two-to-one here.
Bungle Bear: "slave"
King James Bible: "servant"
AV1611VET: "servant"
Get over it.
You dance, you avoid answering questions and you dissemble a lot. The one thing you fail to do is provide direct, honest answers when you know you'll look foolish. You are a grand master at pigeon chess.I'm not going to belabor this much longer.
You posted a Greek word and asked me what it meant.
Twice, I told you what it means.
Third time: "slave" or "servant".
You want to claim that that is the exact word used by Paul, and I'm more than willing to agree with you for the sake of arguing; but I want to make it clear that you don't have the source document, so not only do you not know what word Paul used, you don't even know what language it was.
Anyway, I'm willing, for the sake of argument, to say it was the word you posted.
But now, you want me to agree with you that it was "slave", and you're outvoted two-to-one here.
Bungle Bear: "slave"
King James Bible: "servant"
AV1611VET: "servant"
Get over it.
Suit yourself.You dance,
Post 209?Suit yourself.
I tried, but I can't make a light bulb come on by itself.
Here's an idea - if you want the light bulb to come on you could try giving an honest answerSuit yourself.
I tried, but I can't make a light bulb come on by itself.
Would you recognize one if I gave it?Here's an idea - if you want the light bulb to come on you could try giving an honest answer
Avoiding the question tells us you cant answer it. And I understand why.Then why does the King James bible state that Jesus turned water into wine and you state he turned it into grape juice?
Because we've discussed it before?Avoiding the question tells us you cant answer it. And I understand why.
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