i never said it is. i just said that if a bicycle will appeared in front of our eyes by a natural process it will still be a bicycle. do you agree or disagree?
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No. Snowflakes do not go through the same process of evolution that animals go through.
You realize you are going nowhere with this, don't you? You can spin all the fantasies you want, imagine any kind of an organic wooden robot penguin, play all sorts of linguistic gotcha games, but it won't work. Functional complexity in itself is not evidence of design. Period.i never said it is. i just said that if a bicycle will appeared in front of our eyes by a natural process it will still be a bicycle. do you agree or disagree?
AFAIK, no-one seriously maintains that matter or life can be eternal - the conditions thought to hold at the big bang preclude that. The same applies to energy in some hypotheses (the net energy of the universe is zero, which suggests a universe can be generated from a zero-energy metric, and other aspects of known physics support the idea).That matter, energy and especially life is eternal, takes far more faith than "God did it all."
Because we have incomplete data. The models are hypotheses and depend on differing assumptions. The principle is the same as if you see a tiny light moving across the night sky - you could formulate a number of hypotheses to explain what it was and/or where it came from - it might be a satellite, or an aircraft, or a meteor, or a balloon, or a drone, or an insect, etc. You could then try to support or eliminate each hypothesis by a closer examination of the information you have (how fast is it? is it steady or blinking?, does it make a noise?, etc.), or trying to obtain additional information.How can there be various theoretical models for an eternal cosmos?
One would like to think so...Either it was or it wasn't.
A regular bicycle can't evolve (if you mean evolve like living things evolve). A bicycle that could evolve would not be a regular bicycle. Also, only populations of very rapidly reproducing things (e.g. bacteria) can evolve in front of our eyes, and even then it takes weeks or months to become apparent.i dont talk about a bicycle with the ability to reproduce. just a regular bicycle that evolve in front of our eyes. you will call it a bicycle or not? by the way: english isnt my native so i may not understand some of your words (just as a note).
i dont talk about a bicycle with the ability to reproduce. just a regular bicycle that evolve in front of our eyes. you will call it a bicycle or not? by the way: english isnt my native so i may not understand some of your words (just as a note).
i never said it is. i just said that if a bicycle will appeared in front of our eyes by a natural process it will still be a bicycle. do you agree or disagree?
If robots can make copies of themselves, and those copies are varied from the parents, with traits of the parents being passed to the offspring, and if there is some selective pressure which favours some variations and not others, then they would probably have some sort of evolutionary process.
But it wouldn't be biological evolution.
Unless of course she decides to add a few biological elements to her offspring.There could actually be some form of "selective pressure" in a Terminator scenario where humans don't get along with these new machines. She might choose to pass on traits that are likely to help her offspring survive in specific conditions, including "non hostile" traits and tendencies too. I suspect that they will be designing and building their own offspring sooner or later. That's kinda scary to think about.
A regular bicycle can't evolve (if you mean evolve like living things evolve). A bicycle that could evolve would not be a regular bicycle. Also, only populations of very rapidly reproducing things (e.g. bacteria) can evolve in front of our eyes, and even then it takes weeks or months to become apparent.
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who care? it still a bicycle that was made by a natural process.What natural process do you propose?
who care? it still a bicycle that was made by a natural process.
Yes - processes that can make bicycles can make bicycles...i dont talk about evolution but about a special process that can make a bicycle in front of our eyes. i guess that you agree that even in this case it will be a bicycle. right?
I wouldn´t call it "designed". That´s for sure.i dont talk about evolution but about a special process that can make a bicycle in front of our eyes. i guess that you agree that even in this case it will be a bicycle. right?
Ok, after all this discussion we reach the conclusion that bicycles are made by bicycle makers. Is this thread finally getting somewhere?Yes - processes that can make bicycles can make bicycles...
Hint: They're usually in factories or workshops.
Yes - processes that can make bicycles can make bicycles...
Hint: They're usually in factories or workshops.
Yes - processes that can make bicycles can make bicycles...
Hint: They're usually in factories or workshops.
If you don't understand something I say, just tell me and I'll try to explain.
There are no natural processes that can make bicycles, or that could conceivably make bicycles. Bicycles are manufactured.i talking about a natural process in this case.
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