My Family Has Been Racially Profiled Everywhere from Harvard to Our Own Home

[USincognito]

No, there is a third.

Well. Don't be coy. Answer the question with your third option.

When 80% of the prison population prior to incarceration looked and dressed similarly, well, if it looks and quacks then it just might be…

And why does the prison population look like that?

 

[MachZer0]

Welcome to Cut 'n Shoot Texas! (Among other places... Many other places.)

That point was refuted as I recall

 

[He is Risen 72]

Well. Don't be coy. Answer the question with your third option.

Money and access to the best legal counsel it can buy.

OJ Simpson, when he has $10,000.00 an hour counsel, he is clearly, without a doubt, innocent. Once the money is gone, GULITY!

Could the “dream team” keep every black male out of prison? Without a doubt, well, if most of them were still alive anyway.

The “dream team” was also a very diverse group of lawyers, Black, White, Jewish, and probably not part of a white supremacist plot to lock up the Black man. So why didn’t they take up the cause of equity and ensure the guilty pay, the innocent go free, and justice reigns supreme in America?


Money and it has nothing to do with race, guilt, or innocence.

 

[CaDan]

Counselor?

No more questions?

Do you rest?

The question stands.

 

[CaDan]

Money and access to the best legal counsel it can buy.

OJ Simpson, when he has $10,000.00 an hour counsel, he is clearly, without a doubt, innocent. Once the money is gone, GULITY!

Could the “dream team” keep every black male out of prison? Without a doubt, well, if most of them were still alive anyway.

The “dream team” was also a very diverse group of lawyers, Black, White, Jewish, and probably not part of a white supremacist plot to lock up the Black man. So why didn’t they take up the cause of equity and ensure the guilty pay, the innocent go free, and justice reigns supreme in America?


Money and it has nothing to do with race, guilt, or innocence.

And the systematic, centuries long theft of Black labor and Black capital had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Right.

 

[He is Risen 72]

And the systematic, centuries long theft of Black labor and Black capital had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Right.

The theft of black labor? On a side note, have you tried suing the King of Spain for the theft of Incan and Aztec labor and gold, because I think you have a case there.

 

[He is Risen 72]

If a Black man has millions for his defense, odds are good he will never see prison, regardless of guilt or innocence.

If a White man has millions for his defense, odds are good he will never see prison, regardless of guilt or innocence.

If a Hispanic man has millions for his defense, odds are good he will never see prison, regardless of guilt or innocence.

If a Black man is dependent on a public defender, odds are good he will see prison, regardless of guilt or innocence.

If a White man is dependent on a public defender, odds are good he will see prison, regardless of guilt or innocence.

If a Hispanic man is dependent on a public defender, odds are good he will see prison, regardless of guilt or innocence.

 

[CaDan]

The theft of black labor?

Yeah. Slavery and peonage.

{attempted derail snipped}

Have you given some thought as to whether you will choose option 1 or option 2?

 

[CaDan]

If a Black man has millions for his defense, odds are good he will never see prison, regardless of guilt or innocence.

If a White man has millions for his defense, odds are good he will never see prison, regardless of guilt or innocence.

If a Hispanic man has millions for his defense, odds are good he will never see prison, regardless of guilt or innocence.

If a Black man is dependent on a public defender, odds are good he will see prison, regardless of guilt or innocence.

If a White man is dependent on a public defender, odds are good he will see prison, regardless of guilt or innocence.

If a Hispanic man is dependent on a public defender, odds are good he will see prison, regardless of guilt or innocence.

None of which is relevant to low-level police street harassment.

Take your attempted derail to another thread.

 

[He is Risen 72]

Your right, money has nothing to do with anything. Got to go, I hear an ambulance.

 

[SummerMadness]

A police officer is more inclined to think someone wearing a hoodie is up to something, that a kid wearing a polo. If the street gangs were more inclined to wear polos instead of hoodies, then cops would be looking at people that wear polos with suspicion.

First of all, that's a racist stereotype. Secondly, I was detained in khakis and a polo shirt, they questioned and checked me for warrants on suspicion of trespassing (there were lots of robberies in the area, I forgot to ask the officer if the perpetrators were called the Khaki Bandits). Your clothes do not matter, you are black, you get stopped.

And to clarify, I was wearing those clothes because I decided to take a walk around downtown Atlanta after a day at a scientific conference.

 

[SummerMadness]

Money and access to the best legal counsel it can buy.

That does not fit as a third option and even if true, the makeup of the prison population would not be what it is. When controlling for economics, African Americans are still incarcerated at a higher rate, so it really is option #1 or option #2.

 

[Vylo]

1. Do you live in a high crime area?

2. I'm guessing your friend was wearing a hoodie and jeans when he committed the acts of vandalism.

High burglary in the area it happened. No to the hoodie though.

 

[MachZer0]

First of all, that's a racist stereotype. Secondly, I was detained in khakis and a polo shirt, they questioned and checked me for warrants on suspicion of trespassing (there were lots of robberies in the area, I forgot to ask the officer if the perpetrators were called the Khaki Bandits). Your clothes do not matter, you are black, you get stopped.

And to clarify, I was wearing those clothes because I decided to take a walk around downtown Atlanta after a day at a scientific conference.

It's not a racist stereotype, it's a clothing stereotype

 

[HonestTruth]

St. Paul Mayor Coleman calls for race relations meeting | Minnesota Public Radio News



Racial profiling goes on every where despite all the protests to the contrary by right wingers. Even here in St Paul.

A black man was in a public waiting area as he was waiting for his kids to leave school. Police started hassling him and tasered him as well. He was charged with disorderly conduct but the charges were dropped as he committed no crime. Soon enough he will be suing the city.

Enough whites testified openly that they use that same waiting area all the time and nobody bothers them. Clearly this is a case of white police selectively abusing a citizen because of his skin color.

 

[MachZer0]

St. Paul Mayor Coleman calls for race relations meeting | Minnesota Public Radio News



Racial profiling goes on every where despite all the protests to the contrary by right wingers. Even here in St Paul.

A black man was in a public waiting area as he was waiting for his kids to leave school. Police started hassling him and tasered him as well. He was charged with disorderly conduct but the charges were dropped as he committed no crime. Soon enough he will be suing the city.

Enough whites testified openly that they use that same waiting area all the time and nobody bothers them. Clearly this is a case of white police selectively abusing a citizen because of his skin color.

That notion was firmly refuted in another thread, noting as well the inaccuracies in your version of the story

 

[HonestTruth]

That notion was firmly refuted in another thread, noting as well the inaccuracies in your version of the story

Correction: those charges were dropped against the innocent black man because he did nothing wrong and several whites voluntarily came forward to say they also use that open space without being hassled by white cops. I live nearby and know this for a fact.

Do you?

 

[keith99]

One of the guy in my Rugby club once told me of his youth growing up in the South. He was about 25 years older than I was and white. He mentioned that his dad often hired a black handyman and if the job ran long so he would have to travel home after dark his dad always walked the handyman home. Why? Because an unescorted black in a white neighborhood was risking his life.

 

[keith99]

And why does the prison population look like that? You have two choices:

1. Negroes are naturally criminals and must be controlled.
2. White Supremacy is real and works through the justice system to oppress.

There are no other choices.

One or two. Tell me which you believe and we can have a fruitful discussion. Otherwise you're just wasting my time.

Option 3:

Some subset of the black community has a culture that encourages criminal activity. Purely cultural.

 

[Maynard Keenan]

I lived for 3 years in a poor neighborhood with pretty high rates of property crime and drug and prostitution activity. Walked around in jeans and a hoodie whenever the weather was cool. Never stopped and hassled by a cop. But then I'm a white guy.