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My encounter with an Angel? or Demon?

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What does covering mean? Does it mean ruling, does it refer to the role of the cherubs who covered the Ark of the Covenant?
It means CHRIST and HIS. COVERING

It means that one can come into GOD's PRESENCE because of the RIGHT COVERING and GARMENT

It means that when God looks upon those who believe in HIS SON's sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins, HE sees HIS SON
 
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It means CHRIST and HIS. COVERING

It means that one can come into GOD's PRESENCE because of the RIGHT COVERING and GARMENT

It means that when God looks upon those who believe in HIS SON's sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins, HE sees HIS SON

I was referring to the verse in Ezekiel.
 
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I was referring to the verse in Ezekiel.
Ah. The testimony of JESUS is the SPIRIT of PROPHECY


Evey WORD of GOD spoken in lower signs and symbols spoke of and pointed to CHRIST

All the prophets spoke of HIM

They may not have fully understood all that they prophecies

But they do now

And they know that every word they spoke was in service to us. This generation who benefitted by THE GRACE that was to come

THAT GRACE has come
Every word of GOD
every priest , every prophet, every judge, every king was simply a shadow and a figure pointing us to CHRIST
 
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Do you think their movement is full of deception? I've read about a lot of false miracles going on there.

I know you were not addressing me, so pardon me if I'm sticking my nose in where it doesn't belong... but...

I am very suspicious of a lot that goes on in the Charismatic movement at large... but I am adamant about the "prosperity preachers" and "faith healers" in particular who are teaching doctrines that are much more closely related to Eastern Mysticism than they are true Christianity.

As to the Charismatic movement itself which appears across denominations, I refuse to put God or His Holy Spirit in a box and say he cannot give supernatural gifts or perform supernatural healings even though I am not Charismatic myself. I just say, like John 4:1, "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world." In fact, one of my early mentors from old radio broadcasts was the late Walter Martin, who was famous for his agressive Apologetics approach to defend the Christian faith against cults, skeptics, and false doctrines espoused by "prosperity preachers" or "Word of faith" preachers and their close fraudulent kin, the "faith healers". If someone was actually healed by God during the performance of these people, it was in spite of them, not because of them. They are a blight and cancer upon the body of Christ.

What most people do not know about Walter Martin is that he spoke in tongues and was Charismatic himself. So, I also am not anti-Chrismatic per second, but I am am suspicious of a lot of claims made. So much of what happens is emotional, a sort of self or mass hypnosis... it has been shown that altered states of conscienceness is reached in the right settings (which may be a Church service)... these are similar to states reached in Eastern meditations.That does not mean they are wrong, it means the experiences become, well, suspicious. Is what happens purely a result of emotion, the Holy Spirit, or is it possibly the influence of a very unholy spirit. Let me say at this point that I do not believe a true Christian can be possessed by an evil spirit, but they can be influenced or oppressed by one.
 
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You tell me sir

What do you think?

CHRIST said a wicked generation asks for a sign but none shall be given it except the sign of Jonah

This man is not concerned with preaching THE GOSPEL. He is more interested in material and temporal "well-being"

How does fixing ones teeth bring salvation????

Do you think those "miracles" are demonic, or charlatanry?
 
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I know you were not addressing me, so pardon me if I'm sticking my nose in where it doesn't belong... but...

I am very suspicious of a lot that goes on in the Charismatic movement at large... but I am adamant about the "prosperity preachers" and "faith healers" in particular who are teaching doctrines that are much more closely related to Eastern Mysticism than they are true Christianity.

As to the Charismatic movement itself which appears across denominations, I refuse to put God or His Holy Spirit in a box and say he cannot give supernatural gifts or perform supernatural healings even though I am not Charismatic myself. I just say, like John 4:1, "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world." In fact, one of my early mentors from old radio broadcasts was the late Walter Martin, who was famous for his agressive Apologetics approach to defend the Christian faith against cults, skeptics, and false doctrines espoused by "prosperity preachers" or "Word of faith" preachers and their close fraudulent kin, the "faith healers". If someone was actually healed by God during the performance of these people, it was in spite of them, not because of them. They are a blight and cancer upon the body of Christ.

What most people do not know about Walter Martin is that he spoke in tongues and was Charismatic himself. So, I also am not anti-Chrismatic per second, but I am am suspicious of a lot of claims made. So much of what happens is emotional, a sort of self or mass hypnosis... it has been shown that altered states of conscienceness is reached in the right settings (which may be a Church service)... these are similar to states reached in Eastern meditations.That does not mean they are wrong, it means the experiences become, well, suspicious. Is what happens purely a result of emotion, the Holy Spirit, or is it possibly the influence of a very unholy spirit. Let me say at this point that I do not believe a true Christian can be possessed by an evil spirit, but they can be influenced or oppressed by one.
What I just watched on this video clip was disorganization and ridiculousness.

No mention of CHRIST

More like a magician finding a coin behind a persons ear

But instead looking for gold inside the mouths of men and attributing it to god

A lie and an unnecessary sign of deception deceiving those who walk around as if drunk and not in their right minds
 
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Do you think those "miracles" are demonic, or charlatanry?
Demonic

Anyone who uses "god" as his source but denies the LORD JESUS CHRIST knowingly or unknowingly serves "another father"
 
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What I just watched on this video clip was disorganization and ridiculousness.

No mention of CHRIST

More like a magician finding a coin behind a persons ear

But instead looking for gold inside the mouths of men and attributing it to god

A lie and an unnecessary sign of deception deceiving those who walk around as if drunk and not in their right minds

Do you think he is deceived?
 
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You see many profess to have god(s) but deny THE SON

He who denies THE SON, denies THE FATHER

GOD in HIS WISDOM, by sending HIS SON , shut up the mouths of every lying whispering spirit who suggested anything and everything but CHRIST

To the TESTIMONY and THE LAW

If they do not speak according to The WORD, there is no light in them

They are being deceived by a lying spirit
 
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the verse that talks about the ministers of satan.
What do you think sir?
What bothers me sir is that I initially thought that these "ministers" did not know what they do

I have discovered that some do

That is something so terrible to me

Thst one knows the truth but nevertheless continues to and even has chosen to serve demons
 
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