My DNA Challenge

[Divide]

As I already said: Faith. Without faith it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God.

You are right about. It is not undetecta ble, it is merely unseen to the flesh man.

When one turns inward in faith and allows their spirit to connect with God, then He allows us to see things.

There's a scripture in Hebrews that Tells us this. We look not to the seen, but to the unseen for it is eternal...

Do we have eyes to see, and ears to hear...The Lord will not allow us to see beyond the veil until we are ready for it. When we have the capacity to receive it.

I'm not ready yet. But I may be close.
I've heard some people report seeing demons and stuff, it scares them and they wish prayer for God to take this away from them...and it makes me want to slap them, lol

If you can see them, they can't sneak up on you!
The matrix was right. It is the world which has been pulled over our eyes.

 

[DogmaHunter]

As I already said: Faith. Without faith it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God.

How does "faith" help to distinguish the undetectable from the non-existant?

 

[Dave-W]

How does "faith" help to distinguish the undetectable from the non-existant?

That is difficult to explain, and even more difficult to be understood by those who lack faith.

 

[DogmaHunter]

I'm not ready yet. But I may be close.
I've heard some people report seeing demons and stuff, it scares them and they wish prayer for God to take this away from them...and it makes me want to slap them, lol

I knew a guy who made such claims. The demons were also giving him commands, tasks to carry out. Luckily he was caught just in time before causing serious harm to a random person.

He was detained in a psychiatric ward and given medication. The visual and auditory hallicunations suddenly magically disappeared.

He was subsequently diagnosed with a schizofrenia disorder.

If you can see them, they can't sneak up on you!
The matrix was right. It is the world which has been pulled over our eyes.

It seems to me that what is actually pulled over people's eyes is not "the world". It's rather a veil of "faith" and "superstition" - which is covering the actual world.

 

[DogmaHunter]

That is difficult to explain, and even more difficult to be understood by those who lack faith.

Why?

And isn't it strange / curious that I apparantly need to go to great lengths to try and drag these answers out of you - and I'm still left empty handed.

See, this is why I like empiricism. It's nice and simple and elegant. And it's not dificult to explain. Nore can anyone "lack" empiricism. Everybody understands how observation works. And, more importantly, it actually works as well.

You don't need any "special powers".

 

[Dave-W]

And isn't it strange / curious that I apparently need to go to great lengths to try and drag these answers out of you - and I'm still left empty handed.

Because Faith comes from hearing and hearing from the [spoken] Word of God.

You need to be born again or you cannot even comprehend any of this.

John 3:3
Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

1 Corinthians 2:14
But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.

 

[HitchSlap]

As I already said: Faith. Without faith it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God.

I cannot respect any concept of a god that rewards credulity.

 

[AV1611VET]

I cannot respect any concept of a god that rewards credulity.

He doesn't expect us to.

That's why He gave us a spirit, and a Bible to actuate and feed it.

 

[HitchSlap]

He doesn't expect us to.

That's why He gave us a spirit, and a Bible to actuate and feed it.

Exactly my point.

 

[AV1611VET]

Exactly my point.

He even opened our minds to cause-and-effect.

Luke 7:22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Because Faith comes from hearing and hearing from the [spoken] Word of God.

So, are you saying that you are actually hearing a voice?

You need to be born again or you cannot even comprehend any of this.

Right, right.... So I need to believe first, so that I can use that belief as justification for my belief?

 

[HitchSlap]

He even opened our minds to cause-and-effect.

the dead are raised...

Mmmmmhhhhmm

 

[Divide]

So, are you saying that you are actually hearing a voice?



Right, right.... So I need to believe first, so that I can use that belief as justification for my belief?

No. It's not ok God prove yourself and then I'll believe....it's ok God, I'll believe and trust you...then He will reveal Himself to you.

Didn't you see Miracle on 34th St.?
Seeing isn't believing, Believing is seeing.

We don't have to understand God to believe in Him.
It's called trust.

 

[HitchSlap]

No. It's not ok God prove yourself and then I'll believe....it's ok God, I'll believe and trust you...then He will reveal Himself to you.

Didn't you see Miracle on 34th St.?
Seeing isn't believing, Believing is seeing.

We don't have to understand God to believe in Him.
It's called trust.

You have just defined "gullibility."

 

[Divide]

If someone wants to borrow 100 bucks from you...and you've never loaned them money before...you have to have a little faith in them that they'll pay you back.

It's like that.

 

[Divide]

You have just defined "gullibility."

...and you, narrow mindedness.

 

[Divide]

You have just defined "gullibility."

Man go read my testimonies in the, Miracles and Testimonies thread...

Was it my gullibility that God sent an Angel to me to give me 2400 for some junk at my garage sale? To help me...

Yeah, must'a been, Lol

 

[HitchSlap]

...and you, narrow mindedness.

In what way?

 

[Kylie]

Oh I see we're just not understanding each other.

No, I was quite clear with what I said.

Perhaps I was speaking too broadly for you.

Yes, of course, the problem must have been on MY side of the conversation, mustn't it?

Science isn't trying to hide God.

You're right there. Science literally doesn't care about God, unless God is measurable or has some measurable effect in the universe. Science cares ONLY about observing the universe in a systematic way in order to understand how it works.

Science is cool

Yeah! Science is cool! It's all hip, and totally not square at all! Totally radical, dude!

and slowly proving scripture.

lol, that's a laugh.

Certain elites who largely control schooling and media are.

Are what?

Some scientist's speak truth, others are controlled. They know which side their bread is buttered on.

Here we go with the conspiracy ramblings...

As far as God sending confusion to the enemy...yes He did that and does that. But that's a different subject than God's word to His people and believers.

But you said he wasn't. So now you are changing your tune, explaining why you said that, but didn't actually MEAN that...

They're searching for the God particle now... they'll never isolate it because it is love...God is Love...and will not be isolated by the evil ones.

Like I said, you don't have the faintest idea what science actually is.

Do you understand that the "God particle" is actually the Higgs Boson, and is the particle responsible for the Higgs field, which is what creates mass? It has nothing to do with an actual deity of any kind.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.

Your misunderstandings seem to still exist. Please educate yourself on things like science before you speak of them.

 

[Kylie]

From that response I would guess that you have never worked in a diverse group of technical designers. Everyone has their own "style" and reasons for designing things in a particular way. Some are very conservative and over-design everything. Some (like myself) were somewhat avant garde and brought in elements from other disciplines and design philosophies.

Your question was one that says "why did that designer do things that way?"
Why did the Designer choose to make an animal that looks like a fish but is actually an air breathing animal. I have no idea. It is not my design.

Can you provide any kind of reason at all for any designer to make an animal in such a way? Can ANYONE provide any kind of reason at all for any designer to make an animal in such a way?

Because I've been asking this question for literally decades, and the only answer I've ever received is "God works in mysterious ways," or words to that effect.

Evolution, on the other hand, provides a very good answer.