My Darwin Slave Challenge

[Subduction Zone]

The question is, what if parents can not feed a child and that child is going to starve to death. Would it be better for them to die or to be sold into slavery?

That would be a false dichotomy today. In fact it has been a false dichotomy for quite some time.

 

[Mobezom]

Does this rock care if I crush it? Does the rock care if I crush it?!? YES OR NO ANSWER!!!

 

[[serious]]

Mother Nature is corrupt and immoral, since she supports slavery.

And her disciples won't admit it.

Which, of course, I don't expect them to.

And even attempting to invoke her prophet, Charles Darwin, is grounds for ridicule.

Which, of course, I expect.

In what way does mother nature support slavery?

 

[[serious]]

Is it just me or is this thread rapidly devolving into incoherence?

Did it start somewhere else?

 

[AV1611VET]

In what way does mother nature support slavery?

Did you read the OP?

 

[HitchSlap]

Thank you for your honesty. I disagree with your second statement because it happens in "nature" and as humans we still have a place there. That's a discussion for another time I'm sure.

Why wouldn't I be honest?

IMO, morality "doesn't happen," morality is a concept. As sapient beings, we can choose what those moral actions are or are not.

 

[HitchSlap]

The question is, what if parents can not feed a child and that child is going to starve to death. Would it be better for them to die or to be sold into slavery?

It would be better to live in a society where a third option would feed a child a meal, without trading them as a commodity.

 

[Mobezom]

Slavery happens in nature. That is all. Galaxies collide, stars burn out, and emergent lifeforms profit from the forced labor of other emergent life forms - is that good or bad? No. It just is. Personally I find ant slavery, along with everything else about the universe, fascinating... but if I spend too long doing this, I get a sort of apathetic curiosity.

Not that I lose my morals. I just find it hard to see how things matter, when I'm a dot (human) on a dot (city) on a dot (Earth) orbiting a dot (Sun) within the arm of a dot (Milky Way), within our Local Cluster, filaments and sheets, vast, each strand holding a million worlds...

But that's just the feeling of "centrism" being lost, really. We thought that everything orbited around us, and now we see that we're rather tiny.

And it's not bad, either. I see how everything that I'm mad about, that I dislike, that I think is stupid, is just another dot. Except that the writers of those dots are the only other parts of the universe, AFAIK, that can look at these dots too. The "tiny blue dot" picture gives a sense of camaraderie; understanding the vastness of the world, even more so.

 

[[serious]]

That depends on the question still. Is the action or the originator the holder of the "morality".

The morality or immorality is a function of the actor.

 

[[serious]]

I just said YUP.

I agree with you.

I'm talking about animals using other animals as slaves.

Did Big D approve of it or not?

I don't know. I suspect he would be indifferent. Why would it matter?

As I said before, James Watson is a huge jerk, yet DNA is still a double helix.

 

[AV1611VET]

The "tiny blue dot" picture gives a sense of camaraderie;

Yes, indeed!

 

[[serious]]

Did you read the OP?

OP was about Darwin.

 

[Mobezom]

Yes, indeed!

Very funny...

 

[TLK Valentine]

Did you read the OP?

Yes, and then we saw your hypocrisy when you only wanted to address one part of it.

 

[durangodawood]

Animals do what they do.

Its not my place to approve of them any more than I should "approve of" gravity or photosynthesis.

If I'm wrong, I'd like to hear why.

 

[driewerf]

Do you think MOHER NATURE approves of slavery?

Do you think that our Creator approves slavery?

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you think that our Creator approves slavery?

No.

 

[Larniavc]

He just said it was interesting. THAT'S IT.

That's not the answer AV wants.

He wants an admission that Darwin sat on a skull throne, stroking a skull in a skull hooded skull cloak whispering 'something, something EVOLUTION...'.

 

[driewerf]

No.

Yet he created these ant species.

 

[Jimmy D]

No.

Of course God doesn't approve of slavery, he just created a system of indentured servitude for the ants!