My Creationism vs Intelligent Design Challenge

[AV1611VET]

One of the apt descriptions of ID is that it is only creationism in a stolen lab coat.

It's a poor description.

Creationism + Science = Intelligent Design

Creationism - Faith = Intelligent Design

 

[Loudmouth]

Is Creationism the same thing as Intelligent Design?

Creationism is to Intelligent Design what BB King is to The Blues. BB King sings The Blues, but not all Blues is BB King. Creationism is Intelligent Design, but not all Intelligent Design is creationism.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's a poor description.

Creationism + Science = Intelligent Design

Creationism - Faith = Intelligent Design

No, both of your claims are wrong. Intelligent Design is a form of creationism, just as the Baptist sects are forms of Christianity.

There is still way too much faith in ID and way too little science. If there was no faith in ID or if there was science in it ID would simply disappear.

 

[Loudmouth]

It's a poor description.

Creationism + Science = Intelligent Design

Creationism - Faith = Intelligent Design

Creationism - Honesty about Intentions = Intelligent Design

As far as I know, nearly everyone who accepts ID believes that the Judeo-Christian God is responsible for the creation of the universe and the things in it.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why didn't you just put YES instead of OTHER?

Because there are people who don't know or aren't sure or don't care or whatever, and I didn't want to discriminate against them.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Because there are people who don't know or aren't sure or don't care or whatever, and I didn't want to discriminate against them.

Then you could have put YES and OTHER.

 

[AV1611VET]

Intelligent Design is a form of creationism,

It's not even a good form of it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's not even a good form of it.

That goes without saying. But then there are no "good" forms of creationism. That amounts to a tautology on your part.

 

[AV1611VET]

Then you could have put YES and OTHER.

Then I would have had to put DON'T KNOW, DON'T CARE, AREN'T INTERESTED and whatnot.

Else I'm just being partial to those who say YES.

These are equal opportunity choices, and I didn't want to show partiality of one over the other.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Then I would have had to put DON'T KNOW, DON'T CARE, AREN'T INTERESTED and whatnot.

Else I'm just being partial to those who say YES.

These are equal opportunity choices, and I didn't want to show partiality of one over the other.

No, you're just being ludicrously obtuse. You could still have used YES, NO and OTHER, like so many other polls do without being needlessly complicated.

Oh, and if you wouldn't have guessed, my answer is yes.

 

[AV1611VET]

Then you could have put YES and OTHER.

Then you would be complaining there isn't a NO option, wouldn't you?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Then I would have had to put DON'T KNOW, DON'T CARE, AREN'T INTERESTED and whatnot.

Else I'm just being partial to those who say YES.

These are equal opportunity choices, and I didn't want to show partiality of one over the other.

By putting in only "no" and "other" you are being extremely partial. Why didn't you put in "yes" and "other"?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Then you would be complaining there isn't a NO option, wouldn't you?

Putting those two options alongside the NO should have been obvious to you.

 

[AV1611VET]

Zone and Hitchslap, you guys are more than welcome to vote.

Don't think I just want you here to listen to you guys moan and groan and not put feet to your convictions.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Zone and Hitchslap, you guys are more than welcome to vote.

Don't think I just want you here to listen to you guys moan and groan and not put feet to your convictions.

When the poll is done in a dishonest matter there is no point in voting. Is it too late? You may still be able to correct your OP.

 

[AV1611VET]

When the poll is done in a dishonest matter there is no point in voting. Is it too late? You may still be able to correct your OP.

Be advised this poll will rest on the seventh day.

So don't get all caught up in how many different ways you can express your disdain for it that you forget to vote.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Be advised this poll will rest on the seventh day.

So don't get all caught up in how many different ways you can express your disdain for it that you forget to vote.

Or you could just add a YES option and people will stop complaining about it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Be advised this poll will rest on the seventh day.

So don't get all caught up in how many different ways you can express your disdain for it that you forget to vote.

There is no proper place to lodge a vote. My vote would be misinterpreted if I bothered to do so.

 

[AV1611VET]

Or you could just add a YES option and people will stop complaining about it.

Did it occur to you that by making the options the way I did, it gives those who would not vote NO extra weight by including those who would vote YES?

So if the YESSES outnumber the OTHERS after seven days, that's a big plus for my side.

So if I was you, I would definitely vote NO, just to drown out the YES.

Of course, you can always romp & stomp until the last minute.

It's your choice.

 

[rturner76]

Evolution , theistic or real evolution, has to do with the development of life. Not with the beginning of the universe.

The beginning of the Universe is the beginning of life. It's the beginning of everything known. Even still, something caused the beginning of life on Earth. There wasn't an amoeba there before, now there is, it was put there no?

Nope, you don't seem to know what a theory is.

Theory:
The analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another (Merriam-Webster)

Myth:
a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon

Though Theistic Evolution does explain a natural phenomenon, it is based on the facts contained within the theory of evolution thus making it a theory. The theistic portion is simply an addition to the theory