My Cotton Challenge

[AV1611VET]

I do not think that Universities are bad,

You're entitled to your opinion.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

If you do not understand the meaning of empathy then you miss the whole meaning of the lesson that Mother Teresa was trying to teach you.

Empathy doesn't heal physical injuries.

 

[AV1611VET]

But if everything on Earth happens according to God's will,

Which one?

His direct will, or His permissive will?

Psalm 106:15 And he gave them their request; but sent leanness into their soul.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Which one?

His direct will, or His permissive will?

Psalm 106:15 And he gave them their request; but sent leanness into their soul.

Either. Both. God's will is God's will.

 

[joshua 1 9]

But if everything on Earth happens according to God's will

Romans 8 "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."

There is God's permissive will and God's perfect divine will. Because man has been given free will. We have freedom of choice. Some say this is because God wants to test us to see if we will follow Him or if we will live in rebellion against God.

wouldn't it have been God's plan for Darwin to leave studying medicine and study biology anyway?

You can not put a square peg in a round hole. Everyone has gifts, talents and abilities given to them by God that they need to develop. The question is do we use what God has given us to honor Him or do we choose to dishonor God with what He has given us to work with. Do we love God with all our heart, mind, soul and strength or do we want drugs, sex and rock and roll?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Romans 8 "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."

There is God's permissive will and God's perfect divine will. Because man has been given free will. We have freedom of choice. Some say this is because God wants to test us to see if we will follow Him or if we will live in rebellion against God.

You can not put a square peg in a round hole. Everyone has gifts, talents and abilities given to them by God that they need to develop. The question is do we use what God has given us to honor Him or do we choose to dishonor God with what He has given us to work with. Do we love God with all our heart, mind, soul and strength or do we want drugs, sex and rock and roll?

That in no way is answer to my question.

 

[[serious]]

If you feel that she had no empathy then who would you hold up as an example of empathy, compassion and concern for the needs of people?

Harriet Tubman?

Oskar Schindler?

By the way, I have no idea about the religious affiliation of either of them, nor do I think it's relevant.

 

[AV1611VET]

Either. Both. God's will is God's will.

Warden, do you understand my question, and how it points out something you're overlooking?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Warden, do you understand my question, and how it points out something you're overlooking?

Don't really care. You, as a person, do not understand God's will, no matter what you may claim.
So your comment of "I believe God planned for him[Darwin] to have found a cure for cancer." can take a hike.

 

[Jimmy D]

I do not think that Universities are bad, they are just a waste of time for 80% of the people. Only 20% work hard enough to get an education where they can make more then then $100,000 a year. The real problem is not the books so much as the liberal attitude of the teachers - instructors at the universities.

If the point of Universities was to increase people's earning power you might have a point. IMO Education is it's own reward.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Do you feel that Florence Nightingale had more empathy for others then Mother Teresa? Can science accomplish more then religion? Is one more powerful then the other?

Depends on how you're defining "more powerful." If you're talking in terms of tangible results, well -- "The holy man said faith could move mountains, and nobody believed him. The scientist said he could level mountains, and now nobody doubts him."

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Can science accomplish more then religion? Is one more powerful then the other?

I think it's rather obvious that the answer to that question is a resounding and very very loud YES.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

If you do not understand the meaning of empathy

Who said that I don't understand the meaning of empathy?
I'm saying that what OTHER people do or don't do, doesn't change one iota to what Theresa did. Do you disagree with that?

Because if you do, I'll just proclaim everyone being a saint for the reason that they don't do with Hitler did.

then you miss the whole meaning of the lesson that Mother Teresa was trying to teach you.

I've told you what the problem with Theresa was/is. Anytime you wish to actually address the point made, instead of trying to distract from it....

I'll sum it up once again for you:
- she considered suffering to be sacred
- she left people to suffer in agony instead of actually trying to get them back to health
- she received trunk loads of money from around the world, yet none of it found its way to her "hospitals", as is clearly evident from the very poor state those "hospitals" were in
- when she got sick herself, suddenly "suffering" wasn't all that "sacred" anymore. She didn't go and lay down with the rest of her flock in those "hospitals". Nope. Instead, she got on an airplane and got herself a nice treatment in a high-tech hospital (which she paid for with what money?).

This is not the behaviour of someone who is held up as an example of empathy, compassion and high ethical standards.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I think it's rather obvious that the answer to that question is a resounding and very very loud YES.

Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ..."

Archimedes: "Give me a lever and a place to stand and I shall move the Earth."

 

[joshua 1 9]

Who said that I don't understand the meaning of empathy?

You did. You clearly demonstrated that you to not understand the lesson that Mother Teresa was trying to teach about having love, mercy, compassion, empathy and understand for others.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I think it's rather obvious that the answer to that question is a resounding and very very loud YES.

Not really, the rock solid standard of Science is the double blind test and is is very difficult for them to outperform a placebo. So even if God is just a placebo effect that is still a very high standard to try to surpass. IF you think that is so easy to do then you must be a multi billionare many times over. My son came home the other day complaining about his math class and how difficult his assignment was. I said math maybe difficult but math is correct 100% of the time. You can trust in math and depend on math to always work.

"The half-life of knowledge is the amount of time that has to elapse before half of the knowledge in a particular area is superseded or shown to be untrue. The concept is attributed to Fritz Machlup (1962). For example, Donald Hebb estimated the half-lifeof psychology to be five years." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-life_of_knowledge

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Not really, the rock solid standard of Science is the double blind test and is is very difficult for them to outperform a placebo. So even if God is just a placebo effect that is still a very high standard to try to surpass. IF you think that is so easy to do then you must be a multi billionare many times over. My son came home the other day complaining about his math class and how difficult his assignment was. I said math maybe difficult but math is correct 100% of the time. You can trust in math and depend on math to always work.

"The half-life of knowledge is the amount of time that has to elapse before half of the knowledge in a particular area is superseded or shown to be untrue. The concept is attributed to Fritz Machlup (1962). For example, Donald Hebb estimated the half-lifeof psychology to be five years." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-life_of_knowledge

Wow! Science admits that it can learn new things to replace old ways of thought! How horrible! /SARCASM/

 

[joshua 1 9]

Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ..."

Archimedes: "Give me a lever and a place to stand and I shall move the Earth."

Interesting how he adds: "a place to stand" because there is no amount of weight a lever can not move, be it ever so slight IF you have a place to stand. If the earth is immovable than God has not provided a place for Archimedes to stand.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Wow! Science admits that it can learn new things to replace old ways of thought! How horrible! /SARCASM/

Religion admits we learn new things all the time,
from a book that was written 3,000 years ago.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Religion admits we learn new things all the time,
from a book that was written 3,000 years ago.

Except that many people claim that the Bible is the be-all-and-end-all of knowledge (why, there's one such person on this thread).
And you really need to stop making that claim since you have been shown that, every time you make that claim, you have been proven wrong.