my calling..?

[poofywoofy]

okay this is my first thread in the young adults forum so bear with me *nervous*

Well, I have this friend who claims she can hear the voice of the Holy Ghost. She had this anointing come upon her earlier this year. I don't doubt it (should i?) cos I know she wouldn't lie about such stuff.
But recently, she's revealed so much about what will happen to me in future. She has revealed to me my calling, and that God will use 36 of us (she and i included) to do great works (not going into any specifics here). She has also revealed my future husband (whom I know and who will also be part of the 36) and my bro's future wife (who have been best friends for the past 2 years and will also be part of the 36) and when my parents will be saved.
When I asked her to tell me if the Holy Ghost has anything to say to me, she said "God is wanting you to draw closer to Him, He wants to have a more intimate r/s with you." And the thing is, I have been falling away recently and it is so true that I need to run back into His arms once again.

She's told me a couple of other stuff that I found rather relevant to my life. But the thing is, should I believe her wholly? This whole 36-of-us-including-you-will-do-great-works-for-our-God bonanza is eating at me. No I don't feel afraid or anything, just.. I can't believe God will want to use me in that way, seeing as I've not been as godly as He has instructed us to be (i.e haven't been praying or doing quiet time properly).

Oh and she also says that when the Holy Spirit gives an answer, He only answers in complete sentences in major events/desperate urgent situations. But other than that, when the Holy Ghost wants to say "no", it would just be the slight poking of her heart(*ouch) and if it's a yes, she would feel something like a tangible form flowing through her whole being.

Someone pls respond!

 

[JulySheMustFly]

I'd be nervous too.

Personally I'm cautious of anyone who claims to know my future. I believe God has a plan for my future and can use others in my life to reveal that plan but that plan will be revealed to me not someone else to tell me.

While you may not be praying in the way that you think you need to definitely take the time to go to Him in prayer about this. See what answers you receive. FWIW - God does not answer all of us in the same manner. What may be a poke in the heart (whatever that means) may be a line from a song for someone else or a hug from a friend or events nicely lining themselves up to open a door or close one. See what I am saying here?

 

[Blackguard_]

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I don't doubt it (should i?) cos I know she wouldn't lie about such stuff.

There's nothing wrong with doubting mortals at all. Also, she might very well be sincere, but still not actually be hearing the holy spirit. That is, she might not be lying, (not conciously, at least) and still not be correct.

But recently, she's revealed so much about what will happen to me in future. She has revealed to me my calling, and that God will use 36 of us (she and i included) to do great works (not going into any specifics here). She has also revealed my future husband (whom I know and who will also be part of the 36) and my bro's future wife (who have been best friends for the past 2 years and will also be part of the 36) and when my parents will be saved.

SOunds kinda cultish to me.

When I asked her to tell me if the Holy Ghost has anything to say to me, she said "God is wanting you to draw closer to Him, He wants to have a more intimate r/s with you." And the thing is, I have been falling away recently and it is so true that I need to run back into His arms once again.

You see, that's extremely vague. Most Christians will have no problem beleiving a messege to "draw closer" or whatever is acxtually from God, as even if they aren't back sliding, you can never get too close or clsoe enoough to God right?

But the thing is, should I believe her wholly?

I would be very reluctant to. Has anything she's predicted come to pass? And examine even that to make sure they aren't self-fulfilling prophecies.

just.. I can't believe God will want to use me in that way, seeing as I've not been as godly as He has instructed us to be (i.e haven't been praying or doing quiet time properly).

Sounds like you have a "works" mentality. If you have to be perfect before God will use you, God will never use you. Nobody is as godly as we're instructed to be.

And we're instructed to have faith, not to flawlessly perform rituals, which "quiet time" and "praying" can turn into.

Oh and she also says that when the Holy Spirit gives an answer, He only answers in complete sentences in major events/desperate urgent situations.

I also know people who claim the HS speaks though/to them, and this does not seem to be the case at all with them.

But other than that, when the Holy Ghost wants to say "no", it would just be the slight poking of her heart(*ouch) and if it's a yes, she would feel something like a tangible form flowing through her whole being.

Yeah, I tend to write off a lot of people's accounts of "speaking from the HS" as "gut feeling".

 

[GodsoldierClintus]

Where abouts are in OZ? From what your telling us, it seems a bit strange. I suggest you ask God yourself for confirmation. There's nothing wrong with drawing closer to God yourself and asking for his direction. I find the whole 36 business unsettling...

In the end God's plan for you is between you and God and there should be more than one person telling you what to do to show what God's calling for you is.

 

[Rhododendron]

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[Sketcher]

She might not lie, but she may very well be fooled. Charismatic Christianity produces a lot of Christians who claim the Holy Spirit speaks to them in these ways, but not all of them are actually spoken to by the Holy Spirit. Does she have a history of mental illness at all? Especially OCD?

The only stuff in there that you have shared with us that is verifiable - that God wants to use you for great works, and for you to get closer to Him, etc - is vague and in line with Scripture anyway. So I wouldn't worry about the other stuff. It could be the Holy Spirit, or it could be Christianized version of what the psychics do. The horoscopes are so generalized, that it's impossible for someone not to go through something like that at one point or another. And this is how Satan hooks vulnerable people into that stuff. I'm not saying that Satan is influencing this girl, but I take everything that self-proclaimed prophets tell me with a grain of salt. Remember:

"You may say to yourselves, 'How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD ?' If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." - Deuteronomy 18:21-22

Look at her life.

"The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law." - Galatians 5:19-23

"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them." - Matthew 7:15-19

 

[mina]

I'd always be a little wary of people who say things like "God told me this about you...." or "God told me to tell you to do this..." God will never tell you something through someone else unless He is also telling you the same thing- unless it's a general/generic sort of thing like You shouldn't steal or sin is wrong and will seperate you from God. But I don't beileve that God tells the future in specific details through another person- He wants us to trust only Him. I think that is a form of manipulation- don't fall for it. Be in prayer and be readign the word of God and God will guide you to what He wants.

 

[LightShadow]

She's probably psychic... I should know, my sister is one. And things she has said before have come true. So I know, from experience, that this might be true... God gives psychics special powers like cure and see the future in different ways.. some might have to concentrate alot to do it, others through the Holy Spirit, others through meditating, etc... but they're all gifts from God. And it's a blessing.
My sister wanted to tell me what I was going to do as a profession and who I was going to marry, but I stopped her... I don't really want to know.. I prefer to find all that out by myself.

So give your friend a chance and don't mistake her for a "mentally insane" person or a liar... this things do exist, and they're very much real..

 

[JulySheMustFly]

She's probably psychic... I should know, my sister is one. And things she has said before have come true. So I know, from experience, that this might be true... God gives psychics special powers like cure and see the future in different ways.. some might have to concentrate alot to do it, others through the Holy Spirit, others through meditating, etc... but they're all gifts from God. And it's a blessing.
My sister wanted to tell me what I was going to do as a profession and who I was going to marry, but I stopped her... I don't really want to know.. I prefer to find all that out by myself.

So give your friend a chance and don't mistake her for a "mentally insane" person or a liar... this things do exist, and they're very much real..

I'd suggest doing a scripture search about fortune telling and see if you come up with any edifying results. Checking out Acts 16 may be a place to start. There is a difference between "a spirit" and "The Holy Spirit."

Prophets and fortune tellers/psychics are different. Do not be fooled.

OP-Diligently seek God in prayer on this matter. If it is truly from God, it will line up with scripture, be encouraged by other faithful believers and be answered to you as well.

 

[micbmac]

I would say that if you are getting a bad feeling about all of her "prophecy", you should definately follow your gut instinct. That's God telling you what to do.

 

[Blackguard_]

you should definately follow your gut instinct. That's God telling you what to do.

You see, this is the problem I have with most accounts of "the HS speaking to me". It's just people calling their own gut feelings, desires, and whims the HS.

Although I agree; if something seems fishy it probably is.

this things do exist, and they're very much real..

That doesn't mean everyone claiming to do these things is actually doing them.

 

[LightShadow]

I'd suggest doing a scripture search about fortune telling and see if you come up with any edifying results. Checking out Acts 16 may be a place to start. There is a difference between "a spirit" and "The Holy Spirit."

Prophets and fortune tellers/psychics are different. Do not be fooled.

OP-Diligently seek God in prayer on this matter. If it is truly from God, it will line up with scripture, be encouraged by other faithful believers and be answered to you as well.

LOL fortune tellers.. those are FAKE. Do not believe those people who use magic balls, tarot cards, hand palm reads and all that stuff to tell you the "future".. they're scammers.

Real psychics only need to concentrate or meditate to give you an answer... nothing more than that. No psychical contact should be needed.

 

[LightShadow]

You see, this is the problem I have with most accounts of "the HS speaking to me". It's just people calling their own gut feelings, desires, and whims the HS.

Although I agree; if something seems fishy it probably is.



That doesn't mean everyone claiming to do these things is actually doing them.

Yep, this is true.. unfortunately there's no way for normal people to know whether someone is a real psychic or not... you can just know if you're close to the person, like me with my sister.

But like I said, those people who use objects to tell you the truth are all fake.. real psychics don't need those.

 

[Slider1]

to the OP, yeah. be careful. just from the sound of it, it sounds like other 'prophesies' I've heard. (stuff during really emotional church services from people whose backgrounds are questionable in the first place)...sure maybe theres nothing WRONG with it ('draw closer to God') but thats an awfully 'safe' prophecy. if she prophecied that you were going to be in a serious car accident but not to worry because you would live through it and use your testimony powerfully to reach many people, and like, a week later you were in a serious car accident...chances are it was a real prophecy...
this whole 'group' of '36 people' sounds alot more fishy...its STILL a very vague prophecy...we have no idea WHAT these 36 people are doing...or when they're doing it...God usually gives a general direction and leaves the details to happen by themselves, as opposed to showing some minor details and then leaving the direction up to us...your friend's 'prophecy' has this backwards. Prophets are shown things so that they can help the church have spiritual direction and guidance, not so that they know what colors to put in the new stained glass window.

 

[Riis]

I'm a huge cynic when it comes to prophesies, I don't want to be and it's not that I don't believe God can do it he surely can. The thing is whether the people are right whether they're hearing from God or manufacturing something or I don't know there's a million things that could be happening. Here's what I think I believe that God can speak to me if I'm open and willing to listen then God doesn't need to use someone else, he may still choose to but I can then go and speak to God for myself about the reality of what has been said and I know God will answer. I've learned to listen to my gut if something in me just keeps saying it's really odd and that something is not right then well it's probably not right - the other thing is that often it doesn't matter - I know that sounds odd but unless somebody is telling you to specifically do something right now (which I would be REALLY wary of) apart from seeking God then you should just put it on a shelf if it happens it happens and if it doesn't it doesn't. I've had someone tell me that I would be a prophet that he saw me on stage yelling prophesies and throwing water - which to me seems just a little bit odd, but it doesn't matter because if it's from God then he will lead me there and if it isn't then he won't - I can tell you one thing though I'm not planning my life around it!

 

[mina]

I don't think prophecy means telling the future. Prophecy in the Biblical sense, means someone speaks the word of God. We have the word of God. I think modern day prophets can speak the words of the Bible over others - like an anointing. But I don't think they can (or are in their rights to) tell people what is going to happen specifically in the future.

 

[MarkEvan]

I don't think prophecy means telling the future. Prophecy in the Biblical sense, means someone speaks the word of God. We have the word of God. I think modern day prophets can speak the words of the Bible over others - like an anointing. But I don't think they can (or are in their rights to) tell people what is going to happen specifically in the future.

Allthough I agree that prophecy for the most part is speaking the words of God, I wouldnt go so far as to say that it isn`t telling people the future....Jesus gave a lot of prophecies (in the future sense) as did John (revelation) and we know that Paul was given a prophecy about how he would end up in rome (if you remember Agabus (A guess.....it rings a bell though) prophicied that he would be bound hand and foot and taken to rome (or maybe Jerusalem....can`t remember).
That said I do believe you are right that the important part of prophecying is forthtelling Gods word.

Mark


Ohh and to the OP I am not saying that what your friend said is right, saying someone needs to draw near to God is true of all of us, everyone can draw nearer as we are continually growing. Just be carefull.

Mark