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MorkandMindy

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Republican / democrat mean nothing in the Presidential election, H R C votes with the Republicans on starting wars so in the most important regard she is one. She is G W B reincarnated, she is with the banks, OK, both G W B and Obama bailed out the banks, and she plans to do so too.

I ditched party lines, started agreeing with red-necks and NASCAR fans and somehow my brain survived

Hillary is keen on starting wars and Americans are more willing to accept someone evil than someone stupid, and actually love Presidents to start wars.

Ok, some of that's stupid but I can understand it.

But I'm beginning to think Donald's incompetence might be so bad he will end up doing as badly as Ms deliberately malicious who gets out of everything by pretending to make stupid mistakes. Different reason, same result.


Oops I forgot to put in the poll

O Does your brain ache?
 
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It turns out the reason my brain hurts is because the problem is not computable.

In domestic policy the irony is that despite being part of the establishment, Hillary is willing to have higher taxes on the very rich including the highway men high up in banks.

People voting in ever greater disparity in wealth have validated the current trend in the country coming apart into a very rich elite and everyone else.

Despite Hillary's connection with Goldman Sachs it has been claimed that voting for Donald's lower taxes for the rich is a bad plan.
 
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But then on International policy Hillary's love of wars is a recipe for disaster.

So it depends on whether you are more worried about the country coming apart internally, or being destroyed financially or physically by war.

Non computable.
 
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The election is a mess. If the republicans had put forward a Jeb Bush or a Kirsch they would have it it in the bag. The fact is Clinton is not a good candidate, something I believe she acknowledges in her own emails, but compared to Trump? Clinton is a known quantity, the instability and unreliability that Trump has displayed in his campaign makes him the more dangerous candidate.
 
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It's what we know about Clinton that is so worrying. I've been hoping that Trump will not turn out so bad.

It appears neither candidate has much right and unfortunately there are some really big unquantifiable things on each side.

Donald Trump wants to further increase military spending. And Donald wants to cut taxes on the rich. How can we pay for all that when we are going downhill economically at a worrying rate?

Hillary wants more wars. Same problem about money but an additional one about making more enemies.

Yes I think it is time to give up on the American Empire and focus on having some kind of American Republic again.

Donald wants to reduce immigration but he seems to be going too far on that. Hillary being one of the establishment wants the country flooded with cheap labor.

and so on
 
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The election is a mess. If the republicans had put forward a Jeb Bush or a Kirsch they would have it it in the bag. The fact is Clinton is not a good candidate, something I believe she acknowledges in her own emails, but compared to Trump? Clinton is a known quantity, the instability and unreliability that Trump has displayed in his campaign makes him the more dangerous candidate.
The mainstream media helped Trump beat out the others in the primary because they probably thought he would be easy to beat later. But I think the Clinton campaign underestimated Trump.
 
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There is one conspiracy theory I believe: That the world is actually run by a relatively small number of globally wealthy individuals (fewer than 1,000). They don't form a group--they're not "joiners"--but they know who each other is because they are involved in the same level of business dealing. Trump's probably been in the room with some of them from time to time, but he's not wealthy enough for their confidence.

They don't care about what goes on within nations. They don't care about partisan politics. They don't care if the US bans guns or abortions. They don't care about emails or labia-grabbing. They only care about the global flow of wealth and that they control it.

Nobody becomes president without understanding that they run the money.

They don't care about regional wars as they don't disrupt something important like the flow of oil. Wars over ideology are good for business, wars over international resources are not.
 
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It's what we know about Clinton that is so worrying. I've been hoping that Trump will not turn out so bad.

It appears neither candidate has much right and unfortunately there are some really big unquantifiable things on each side.

Donald Trump wants to further increase military spending. And Donald wants to cut taxes on the rich. How can we pay for all that when we are going downhill economically at a worrying rate?

Hillary wants more wars. Same problem about money but an additional one about making more enemies.

Yes I think it is time to give up on the American Empire and focus on having some kind of American Republic again.

Donald wants to reduce immigration but he seems to be going too far on that. Hillary being one of the establishment wants the country flooded with cheap labor.

and so on
He is so bad. He's exponentially worse. It's like firing your banker and hiring a hobo who stabbed your neighbor to handle your finances. Yeah, maybe he's just needed an opportunity to shine, but its much more likely he's just going to steal your money and stab you in the face.
 
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Or overestimated the amount of support she would receive from voters...

True.

At first I thought she might be OK but when I found out she had been the main force getting Democrats to vote for war in Iraq and then as Sec of State she had over ruled initial Pentagon caution against attacking Libya a pattern had emerged and her present push for getting the Russians out of their ally Syria and the 'work' she had done to support the rebels in Syria, it was clear

she is nothing but a big trouble causer, as much a danger to us now as to the rest of the World.
 
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