My BC Challenge

[AV1611VET]

The AD/BC calendar was developed by a monk.

So?

He got it wrong,

How do you get it wrong?

It's simple physics: Jesus was born in 1 AD.

... but you have a problem with scientists letting that go?

Letting what go?

Would you prefer them to harp on about the stupidity of Christians who don't even know when the central character of their religion was born?

No. They harp on enough.

 

[AV1611VET]

Quirinius? Herod?

Quirinius and Herod can take a hike.

This is about Jesus Christ.

Of course, at Jesus' trials, we see this occur:

Luke 23:12 And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for before they were at enmity between themselves.

Just like science and religion teaming up against the Jews today.

 

[HitchSlap]

Quirinius and Herod can take a hike.

This is about Jesus Christ.

Of course, at Jesus' trials, we see this occur:

Luke 23:12 And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for before they were at enmity between themselves.

Just like science and religion teaming up against the Jews today.

Kinda’ makes you wonder what else they got wrong.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

How do you get it wrong?

Ask a Christian. It's their mistake.

It's simple physics: Jesus was born in 1 AD.

You'd think so, wouldn't you? But a Christian got it wrong. Perhaps he was a really a scientist - that would explain his stupidity, wouldn't it?

 

[TheBear]

You didn’t answer my question.

He totally missed your point.

 

[TLK Valentine]

It's simple physics: Jesus was born in 1 AD.

Actually, it's a simple calendar correction -- our calendar wasn't invented until AD 525, and underwent several changes. Jesus was born no later than 4 BC, if the Bible is to be believed.

(and btw, AV -- "AD" actually goes before the year, so it'd be "AD 1.")

 

[AV1611VET]

Actually, it's a simple calendar correction -- our calendar wasn't invented until AD 525, and underwent several changes. Jesus was born no later than 4 BC, if the Bible is to be believed.

So what year does BCE end?

(and btw, AV -- "AD" actually goes before the year, so it'd be "AD 1.")

Correct -- my bad.

 

[TLK Valentine]

So what year does BCE end?

At 1 CE, of course.

 

[AV1611VET]

At 1 CE, of course.

So the Scriptures were actually completed in AD 92? not 96?

 

[HitchSlap]

So the Scriptures were actually completed in AD 92? not 96?

Yes, much in the same way a person can both be born during the Bush & Obama presidencies.

 

[TLK Valentine]

So the Scriptures were actually completed in AD 92? not 96?

According to you? AD 96. After all, given the choice between correcting an error and enshrining it... well, we all know your M.O.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes, much in the same way a person can both be born during the Bush & Obama presidencies.

... That's science for you!

 

[HitchSlap]

... That's science for you!

Since when do you consider the bible science?

 

[AV1611VET]

According to you? AD 96.

Interesting.

So it took 100 years into the CE ... not 96 ... to complete the Scriptures?

(Assuming the CE started in 4 BC.)

 

[TLK Valentine]

Interesting.

So it took 100 years into the CE ... not 96 ... to complete the Scriptures?

(Assuming the CE started in 4 BC.)

As long as we're using your estimation of AD 96 as a guide, yes...

Of course, it should be noted that 4 BC is the latest possible date for Jesus' birth -- some Biblical scholars put him in late 5 BC... so again, by your calculations, it might have taken 101 years...

 

[AV1611VET]

Since when do you consider the bible science?

Here's the point I'm making:

Back then, Satan showed Jesus the world, with all it's glory ... whatever "all it's glory means".

Today, Satan's disciples show us the world, with all it's glory ... whatever "all it's glory means".

 

[AV1611VET]

As long as we're using your estimation of AD 96 as a guide, yes...

Of course, it should be noted that 4 BC is the latest possible date for Jesus' birth -- some Biblical scholars put him in late 5 BC... so again, by your calculations, it might have taken 101 years...

So I was actually born in 1950?

(I'm actually trying to understand this. It looks to me like scientists are saying the earth has gone around the sun four times less than it actually has. Either that, or they need to adjust everything forward four years. Either way, they're either too stupid to understand, or they're too lazy to care, or both. But as long as they have us confused, they've made their boss happy.)

 

[TLK Valentine]

So I was actually born in 1950?

(I'm assuming you were originally born in 1946... )

No, you were still born in 1946 -- you were born, however, at least 1,950 years after the birth of Christ.

(I'm actually trying to understand this. It looks to me like scientists are saying the earth has gone around the sun four times less than it actually has. Either that, or they need to adjust everything forward four years. Either way, they're either too stupid to understand, or they're too lazy to care, or both. But as long as they have us confused, they've made their boss happy.)

Wrong as usual, AV -- it was the church that screwed up when they assigned the year of Christ's birth -- in all fairness, it was approximately 530 years after the fact, so who can blame them?

Since most of us have long since come to realize that arguing with religious types is equal parts futile and pointless (not to mention dangerous, back in the day when the church had a tendency to immolate people who dared challenge their infallibility), the decision was made to humor them.

Besides, you'd be surprised (or perhaps not) how many Christians are ignorant enough to think that the year of his birth actually comes from the Bible itself... that, combined with a "The Bible says it -- CASE CLOSED" mentality (shocking, I know, right?) means that even today, you'd be hard-pressed to find many Christians willing to correct a sacred error.

Besides, after 2,017 years, does it really matter at this point? Keeping a senseless tradition is hardly exclusive to religious thought.

 

[HitchSlap]

So I was actually born in 1950?

(I'm actually trying to understand this. It looks to me like scientists are saying the earth has gone around the sun four times less than it actually has. Either that, or they need to adjust everything forward four years. Either way, they're either too stupid to understand, or they're too lazy to care, or both. But as long as they have us confused, they've made their boss happy.)

Well, when the merry-go-round has spun approx. 4.54 billions times, you gotta' jump on at some point.

 

[HitchSlap]

Here's the point I'm making:

So hard to tell sometimes. Your science-envy sometimes gets the best of you.

Back then, Satan showed Jesus the world, with all it's glory ... whatever "all it's glory means".

But "Satan" doesn't exist in reality.

Today, Satan's disciples show us the world, with all it's glory ... whatever "all it's glory means".

But "Satan" doesn't exist in reality.