My Baptism Doesnt Count!!!???

[Isaiah 53]

You a Sacred Tradition (capital T) and Sacred Scripture Roman Catholic accuse me a Sola Scriptura, Fundamental, Evangelical, Charismatic, Pentacostal, Protestant of accepting things that are extrabiblical? You need to check what your church teaches on the equallity of Tradition (capital T) and Scripture.
Where does it say to baptize infants, while were on adding things to scripture. Don't give the story of the man's whole household being saved to me. That doesn't count because my father's whole household has been saved, my mother, my father, myself, and my sister 11. None of us were baptized as infants, and yet we're all baptized

Please tell me where in Scripture 'Sola Scriptura' is taught? Does the Scripture say to use Scripture alone; or is that a Tradition you hold to?

Peace in Him

 

[Adammi]

I am not getting into Sola Scriptura, I was simply stating that if you aren't Sola Scriptura then you can't fuss at me because you don't think my beliefs are found in the Bible.

 

[InnerPhyre]

I am not getting into Sola Scriptura, I was simply stating that if you aren't Sola Scriptura then you can't fuss at me because you don't think my beliefs are found in the Bible.

You were the one saying our beliefs were wrong because they are, in your opinion, extraBiblical. We were just asking you to tell us where your beliefs are found in the Bible so that you could prove what you were saying. The point is moot, because you aren't allowed to debate here anyway

 

[California Dreamin']

I was baptized when I was 18 months old, I started going to a church of a different denomination last year and someone told me that I would have to be baptized in my new church.
I am not Catholic but this title caught my eye.
Anyways, someone told me that I was baptized the right way once before and I do not need to be baptized two times. Glad I figured that out!

 

[Benedicta00]

I was baptized when I was 18 months old, I started going to a church of a different denomination last year and someone told me that I would have to be baptized in my new church.
I am not Catholic but this title caught my eye.
Anyways, someone told me that I was baptized the right way once before and I do not need to be baptized two times. Glad I figured that out!

The bible says, there is but only one baptism. Not two or three even.

 

[Benedicta00]

I am not getting into Sola Scriptura, I was simply stating that if you aren't Sola Scriptura then you can't fuss at me because you don't think my beliefs are found in the Bible.

Highway man,


You said you believe...because it's taught in the bible...that baptism does not regenerate but it is a outward work of what happens inside.

For the thrid time trying, where is that writen in scripure? No one but you, certainly not I mentioned extra-biblcal beliefs, I asked something very pointed, where does the bible say that baptism is a outward work or sign or ordinace? Can you cite or not?

 

[JeffreyLloyd]

No more debating or warnings will be issued.

 

[Mandey]

i was baptised as a 6 month old baby..i am so grateful for my parents and godparents for doing so...infant baptism is such a beautiful thing: the parents making a commitment to teach the child the ways of Christ and the church...baptism to other churchs is actually confirmation to the catholic church..it's all so beautiful!!!

 

[JeffreyLloyd]

Acts 2:37 - When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?"

Acts 2:38 - Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 2:39 - The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off--for all whom the Lord our God will call."

 

[thereselittleflower]

there's a thread in the teen's subforum about who's been baptised and who things its essential for salvation. well some girl started another thread about how she saw that a lot of us had been baptised as children, and she said "no where in the bible does it state that a child should be baptised. so if you were baptised as a child it doesnt neccissarly count" EXCUSE ME?!? if im not mistaken, i cant remember who said it right now bc im mad, someone said for all to be baptised and repent, ALL, it didnt say all except for children, it said ALL, that includes children and infants...im so terribly upset right now....

anyways...that's my rant for today

Ask her if she thinks the circumcision of the Jews counted when they were 8 days old . . or if they had to get recircumcised when they were adults?


Peace in Him!

 

[thereselittleflower]

I am not against your faith, but I have a question. What is the points of infant baptism?
I could get baptized till my fingers are all pruny, and the cows come home, but if I don't believe in Jesus then it didn't amount to a hill of beans.
Mark 16:16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Baptism is pointless without belief.

Was circumcision of the Jews [pointless without the belief of the baby being circumcised?

Circumcision leaves an indellible, permanent mark on the body . . . it is performed in the faith of the parents . .

Baptism leaves an indellible, permanent mark on the soul . . and when done to infants, it is in and through the faith of the parents.

It is never performed without belief, even on babies . .


Peace in Him!

 

[ps139]

This thread is being re-opened. Remember, no debating allowed by non-Catholics.

 

[ps139]

 

[Wild_Fan4Christ]

Thanks for reopening this, I wanted to add my view on it.

I too have had people tell me my infant baptism is not valid...with a stone cold look on their face which made me feel like they were telling me I am destined to hell if I didn't convert to their religion and get baptised again. Getting baptised again for a second time means you are just getting wet again. Unless of course your first one wasn't in "The name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy spirit."

This is the problem I see with these fanatical bible only religions. Personal interpretation of the bible leaves to confusion, and anarchy which is just what we have.

Catechism of the Catholic Church, CCC states...
CCC 108 "Still, the Christian faith is not a "religion of the book." Christianity is the religion of the "Word" of God, a word which is "not a written and mute word, but the Word is incarnate and living" If the Scriptures are not to remain a dead letter, Christ, the eternal Word of the living God, must, through the Holy Spirit, "open [our] minds to understand the Scriptures."

CCC 111 "But since Sacred Scripture is inspired, there is another and no less important principle of correct interpretation, without which Scripture would remain a dead letter. "Sacred Scripture must be read and interpreted in the light of the same Spirit by whom it was written."

We were all born with original sin that is connected to Adam's sin.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church, CCC states...

CCC430 "...with Adam's sin and the fact that he has transmitted to us a sin with which we are all born afflicted, a sin which is the "death of the soul".Because of this certainty of faith, the Church baptizes for the remission of sins even tiny infants who have not committed personal sin.

CCC 1250 "Born with a fallen human nature and tainted by original sin, children also have need of the new birth in Baptism to be freed from the power of darkness and brought into the realm of the freedom of the children of God, to which all men are called. The sheer gratuitousness of the grace of salvation is particularly manifest in infant Baptism. The Church and the parents would deny a child the priceless grace of becoming a child of God were they not to confer Baptism shortly after birth."

CCC 1252 "The practice of infant Baptism is an immemorial tradition of the Church. There is explicit testimony to this practice from the second century on, and it is quite possible that, from the beginning of the apostolic preaching, when whole "households" received baptism, infants may also have been baptized."

Some verses...

Matthew 19:14
"...but Jesus said, "Let the children come to me, and do not prevent them; for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

Footnote to that verse [13-15] "This account is understood by some as intended to justify the practice of infant baptism. That interpretation is based principally on the command not to prevent the children from coming, since that word sometimes has a baptismal connotation in the New Testament; see Acts 8:36."

Acts 2:38-39 "Peter (said) to them, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the holy Spirit. For the promise is made to you and to your children and to all those far off, whomever the Lord our God will call."

Check out those verses and tell me what they say in your protestant bible. I am interested to see if they changed those too.

So, whoever says my infant baptism isn't valid I would tell them to think twice about what they are saying and to be very careful of their personal interpretation to sacred scripture.

 

[Anthony]

Baptism is a gift; it is the same gift regardless of whether it is given to an infant, and child or an adult. While an adult may appreciate that gift better, the infant once they grow, will later grow to appreciate that gift as well if they chose. Age doesn't determined or validate the gift.

 

[RhetorTheo]

There are many scriptures saying that everyone should be baptized. The burden of proof is on those who claim that only some people should be baptized. Where in the Bible does it say that children should not be baptized?

 

[CrystalBrooke]

that's just it, nowhere in the bible does it say "do not baptise infants and young children" my sister and little cousin were 6 years old, and to have someone tell me that from birth to 6yrs they shouldnt be baptised really makes me angry! i was 7, lucky me, i just made it. Peter said for ALL to be baptised and repent, that includes children and infants....sometimes i just think ppl have it out for Catholics

 

[Benedicta00]

It's not that they have it out for Catholics, it's just the effects of sola scripture. Everyone is their own authority to say what is true and what isn't based on their persoanl truth, the way they want things to be rather than how they actually are.