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Can you give a specific example of one "miracle" that you are speaking about?

Why would a suspension of a law, be a violation of a law? Is turning on the light switch activating a law, and is turning off a light switch then violating a law that was active?

When you say "natural law" can you define this please?
 
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I believe Jesus is the Christ. Im Christian. I’m a disciple of the original, pre-cross gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven. The God revealed in the life of Jesus was a great improvement over the Jews dim view of him in their OT scriptures.

So I will keep my tag just the way it is. Christian seeker of truth.

Maybe Christians should call their religion Judaism+ ?
 
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I could quote a few science (livescience, etc, nonYEC) articles, but I am more interested in your position on how any living thing arrived on 'Australia' (since some nonYEC 'science' say that marsupials came from South America).
Tectonic plates shift, carrying the fauna and flora on the surface with them.
Koalla's and Kangaroo's evolved after Oceania split from the larger continent millions of years ago.

If you wanted a YEC position, I could give another vid by John Mackay.

I want an evidence based position.


Mohammed rode a winged horse according to the Quran. Do you believe that too?


So, more magic.
 
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You really ought to change, or have the mods change your "Christian seeker" tag. It is misrepresenting your position, and makes things unclear for others.
I agree.

Colter is a Urantian.

Some seek Christianity though … not to join it … but to attack it.
 
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Let me know what you think of the material in the video on the connection made between India and Australian aboriginal peoples therein, and the dingo's. It is the only two portions I would like your return on.
Yes, Aborigines of Australia, having migrated there 70,000+ years previously, had contact with another genetic group from the region of India. The dingo May have come along at that time.

The Kangaroo is indigenous to Australia, 30,000,000+ years old.
 
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Can you give a specific example of one "miracle" that you are speaking about?

"speaking" things into existence.
Having food "magically" appear in deserts.
Having dead people resurect.

Why would a suspension of a law, be a violation of a law?

Why don't you try and suspend gravity and explain the difference.


Is turning on the light switch activating a law, and is turning off a light switch then violating a law that was active?

Neither.

When you say "natural law" can you define this please?

Physics, chemistry, biology, …
Things work a certain way. And due to these constraints, there is a finite set of things that are physically possible.

For example, due to how biology, physics and chemistry work, it is not possible for humans to fly without the use of any technology.
 
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When the Hebrews were redoing the history of the Israelites they knew nothing of science, evolution or a huge round planet with lots of other cultures and living things. Their creation flood story was for the average, simple minded Israelite.

Yet, every one of these subjects has “men of reason” defending their ideas, even till today. Why would someone feel the need to make up such an imaginative story in the first place, if it was not true and they were just trying to sway the simple-minded as you suggest? Why not just say God struck everything dead except Noah and company... now that’s simple. Why do you think there was so much “spotlight” put on stories in the OT for such a “simple-minded” people?
 
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I agree.

Colter is a Urantian.

Some seek Christianity though … not to join it … but to attack it.
The preservation of the superstitious ignorance of the past retards and contaminates the gospel of Jesus.

AV would have rejected Jesus using the OT scripture, there is no Son of God coming down from heaven in Judaism. He would have made a great Pharisee.
 
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Simple, the flood myth is in the genealogical portion of the Hebrews history/scripture. There is no secular history of the Hebrews because they destroyed all of it even though those books are still mentioned in their scripture.

In trying to trace their bloodlines back to the Adam of Mesopotamian lore, they found great difficulty in piecing the story together, so they decided to drown the whole world in its own wickedness to fill the gap. Bloodlines and assumed “authority” was key to the Zionist political, religious, nationalist propaganda document known as the Old Testament.
 
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A very good option. Going by the description....

16 You shall make a window for the ark, and you shall finish it to a cubit from above; and set the door of the ark in its side.
5 And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month. In the tenth month, on the first day of the month, the tops of the mountains were seen.
6 So it came to pass, at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made.

the one window was not opened till near the end of the flood.
So it was dark and cool most of the voyage.

Hibernation - ScienceDirect
 
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If there was no actual flood, shouldn’t there be some actual verifiable secular history to the contrary around then? And still, why all the imagination and spotlight for simple-minded people?
 
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AV would have rejected Jesus using the OT scripture,
Either that, or I wouldn't have.

Luke 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Luke 24:26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
Luke 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.


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He would have made a great Pharisee.
And you a great anti-Semite.
 
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Jesus was harder on the Jews than I have ever been!

Luke 23:27-31

A large number of people followed him, including women who mourned and wailed for him. 28 Jesus turned and said to them, “Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me; weep for yourselves and for your children. 29 For the time will come when you will say, ‘Blessed are the childless women, the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed!’ 30 Then

“‘they will say to the mountains, “Fall on us!”
and to the hills, “Cover us!”


31 For if people do these things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry?”
 
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