My Abiogenesis Challenge

[Astrophile]

During the Tribulation, the Antichrist is going to unify abiogenesis with evolution ... and demonstrate it too by giving life to an image.

This is not what abiogenesis means.

The result will be that scientists will line up to take the Mark.

I doubt it. Scientists have had too much experience of frauds, such as spiritualism and extra-sensory perception, to be fooled by such trickery.

 

[miknik5]

So there was just a layer of water? Or was it a ball? How deep and wide was it? Did it stretch across the entire universe? The

You cannot have "above" and "below" without there being something to reference for position. So, by definition, the water must have formed a division. Also, how is it possible that God "hovered over the deep" if there was no reference? Which way is "up" when something is formless?

GOD is before time and space and is neither limited by or to time or space.

HE does not have a need for anything

HE did not do HIS WORK of creation for HIMSELF

HE did not need to create so that HE could become
HE IS....

HE did HIS WORK of creation so that we could become

 

[miknik5]

So God hovered over his own hand? How does that work?

Where'd the gravitational pull come from? Let me guess - there was no gravity to start with, so he invented it? That raises so many questions around how there could be a layer of water in the first place (do you know what water does in zero gravity?), how God could hover etc etc etc. But you can just hand wave those problems away, can't you?

I love how Christians can make up any additional information they like to support their favourite story but they still claim they don't add anything to the Bible.

Because HE is above and before all things
Just as HE should be

 

[AV1611VET]

This is not what abiogenesis means.

I don't care what abiogenesis means.

When the Antichrist gets ahold of it and unifies it with evolution, then things are going to start happening.

I doubt it. Scientists have had too much experience of frauds, such as spiritualism and extra-sensory perception, to be fooled by such trickery.

That's big talk when it comes to the Antichrist.

 

[miknik5]

◄ Genesis 1:2 ►
New International Version
Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

New Living Translation
The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.

English Standard Version
The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

New American Standard Bible
The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.

King James Bible
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness covered the surface of the watery depths, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.

International Standard Version
When the earth was as yet unformed and desolate, with the surface of the ocean depths shrouded in darkness, and while the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters,

NET Bible
Now the earth was without shape and empty, and darkness was over the surface of the watery deep, but the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the water.

New Heart English Bible
Now the earth was formless and empty. Darkness was on the surface of the deep. God's Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep water. The Spirit of God was hovering over the water.

JPS Tanakh 1917
Now the earth was unformed and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the waters.

New American Standard 1977
And the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.

Jubilee Bible 2000
And the earth was without order, and empty; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

King James 2000 Bible
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

American King James Version
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved on the face of the waters.

American Standard Version
And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God moved over the waters.

Darby Bible Translation
And the earth was waste and empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

English Revised Version
And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Webster's Bible Translation
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

World English Bible
Now the earth was formless and empty. Darkness was on the surface of the deep. God's Spirit was hovering over the surface of the waters.

Young's Literal Translation
the earth hath existed waste and void, and darkness is on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God fluttering on the face of the waters,
Commentary
Matthew Henry Commentary

 

[miknik5]

I just like the word hovered

It has more of an effect

 

[TLK Valentine]

Your asking such a question

There is no question.

 

[miknik5]

There is no question.

See?
Irrelevant

The question was asked
The answer was given
You however had nothing more to say

 

[miknik5]

I was quoting your biggest fan, miknik5. You might not want to alienate her with these harsh words

Poor miknik.

But you still haven't learnt to read threads properly to find out who is saying what before you sling mud.

Weird, isn't it?



You know ... it's the scientific method thing to do.

I think it's called "research."

Of course, if you'd rather not bother, and it's more fun to come back with something stupid ... knock yourself out ... you're on a roll already.

But believe me, you're not alone.
For some dumb reason, I feel like I'm Genghis Khan.Handwaving an Arab phone can be more constructive than anything else.Oh, I won't.

You see, she probably has another translation she prefers ... so at least she gets something.

What's your excuse for using it though, researcher?I have a feeling 'poor miknik' is richer than you think.LOL

Okay, researcher.

I can usually tell when scientific methodists aren't walking their talk.

So that door swings both ways.

And speaking of research, I'll just check and see if you ever used that term before miknik ever showed up here.

In the meantime, don't operate any helicopters please.

Hi

An apology is in order
You could have just really done your HW

How difficult would it have been to just google parallel versions of the same scripture verse?
Or just typing in "and GOD hovered"?

Actually, you know what bungle bear, I don't really need one

 

[AV1611VET]

I just like the word hovered

It has more of an effect

He (the Holy Spirit) was probably doing topographical work.

Psalm 147:8 Who covereth the heaven with clouds, who prepareth rain for the earth, who maketh grass to grow upon the mountains.

Job 28:24 For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole heaven;
Job 28:25 To make the weight for the winds; and he weigheth the waters by measure.
Job 28:26 When he made a decree for the rain, and a way for the lightning of the thunder:
Job 28:27 Then did he see it, and declare it; he prepared it, yea, and searched it out.

 

[AV1611VET]

You could have just really done your HW

Very few here do their homework before they reply.

And those that do, don't really post here that much, if at all anymore.

Split Rock, Thaumaturgy, Strathos, sfs, Kerr Metric, RickG, Lucaspa, Beastt, and Wiccan Child come to mind as walking their talk.

But at a price.

Those that use auto-denial talk more, say less, and make more mistakes than the abovementioned.

 

[miknik5]

He (the Holy Spirit) was probably doing topographical work.

Psalm 147:8 Who covereth the heaven with clouds, who prepareth rain for the earth, who maketh grass to grow upon the mountains.

Job 28:24 For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole heaven;
Job 28:25 To make the weight for the winds; and he weigheth the waters by measure.
Job 28:26 When he made a decree for the rain, and a way for the lightning of the thunder:
Job 28:27 Then did he see it, and declare it; he prepared it, yea, and searched it out.

And hovered over the face of the waters

LOL

 

[AV1611VET]

And hovered over the face of the waters

LOL

He probably stopped here and there and said, "Let's put a mountain here, a river there, a Garden here, etc there."

 

[miknik5]

By the way, for some well known reason, I use the JPS when directed to

I have found when so some

He probably stopped here and there and said, "Let's put a mountain here, a river there, a Garden here, etc there."

God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10And God called the dry landEarth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good



HE simply gathered the waters below so that dry land appeared within the bodies of waters

 

[AV1611VET]

no AV.
HE simply gathered the waters below so that dry land appeared within the bodies of waters

This is why I say God created sea water into the palm of His hand.

Sea water contains all the elements in the Periodic Table, less the synthetic ones.

So when it came time for God to create the land, He simply called it forth, and the elements in the sea water came together and the dry land appeared.

 

[miknik5]

This is why I say God created sea water into the palm of His hand.

Sea water contains all the elements in the Periodic Table, less the synthetic ones.

So when it came time for God to create the land, He simply called it forth, and the elements in the sea water came together and the dry land appeared.

Yes I did remember your analogy

 

[TLK Valentine]

See?
Irrelevant

The question was asked
The answer was given
You however had nothing more to say

As amusing as this phantom conversation is, it doesn't change the fact that you've done nothing but repeat the same old baseless claims... each time a little louder.

 

[miknik5]

As amusing as this phantom conversation is, it doesn't change the fact that you've done nothing but repeat the same old baseless claims... each time a little louder.

Oh. Anyone who wants to know if this was a phantom conversation has only to review and go back to your post on your insight of GOD and follow forward to see that you stopped that discussion and moved on because you no longer had anything to say

But please don't go back now
Anything you might say at this point I am not sure would be fair and honest conversation at all

 

[Loudmouth]

No
So writes (and speaks)GOD

The Bible was written by men.

 

[miknik5]

The Bible was written by men.

It's IMPOSSIBLE for men to have been saying the same thing from the beginning and up to today

IMPOSSIBLE