my 9 yr old daughters class

[blessedmomof5]

Thank you.....and during snack. no nap.

 

[cwolf20]

the current HP movie that came out last week.

can i ask what movie cwolf20, was talking about? or is it that shell i live in?
Denise

 

[jenptcfan]

I'm not anti-HP (in fact I really enjoy the books and movies), but I'm not sure it's appropriate for 9 year olds--especially if she didn't send permission slips home asking the parents if it was OK.

I'd definately talk to her about it since you and your child are uncomfortable with it.

 

[mlqurgw]

I admit that I haven't read the whole thread so forgive me please if this is a repeat. A wise person chooses their battles. If you make a big deal out of something that will happen anyway what are you teaching your daughter? What you have done is put your daughter in a position that she is more than likely not able to bear at this time in her life. By all means raise her in the nurture and admonition of the Lord but recognize that what you do affects her in many ways. I will give you an example from my own experiece with one of my daughters. When she was in the 8th grade she was touched on her breasts by her band teacher. I was naturally incensed and went to the principle and demanded that he be fired and possibly prosecuted. But then I began to consider how such a response would affect my daughter. The trauma to her wasn't worth it. If I had continued in my pursuit to have the man castigated it would have only resulted in putting my daughter in the position of public shame in her own eyes and would have made the experience something that would have shaped her in ways I didn't desire her to have to deal with. I dropped it and now at 25 she is fine and I haven't heard her even mention the occurance again.

Please don't think I am saying that there are no battles to fight but please consider your daughter before you do anything.

 

[blessedmomof5]

mlqurgw,

while as a mother of 5 daughters, i probably would have done worse.....but i understand what you are saying. but

my daughter and i have talked about hp, and i have explained to her about witchcraft , and that we try not to invite darkness into ourlives....so with that she was the one who decided she did not want to listen to it, i believe she is afraid of it......so she asked me to speak to the teacher so she will not have to listen to it......i really think if she wanted to sit in the hall for snack the teacher would be ok with it.....it would be me and the battle.....and i am tired.....



now i have to deal with the band teacher. shessh does it ever end???lol

 

[agkitty]

This is not the place to argue this, and I promise to drop it right after I give my opinion. I do not plan on "sheltering" my children, but I do not want them desensitized to things like I was. I want them to be fully immersed in God and His holy Word as possible. Plus, there are a lot of things schools teach that are just plain wrong, I plan to tell my children, "This is the answer you need to know for your tests, but this is what really happened".

I saw too many of my friends lost in the public school system because of desensitization. Yes, I took offense to what you said about sheltering, and maybe I am, but I believe my kids will be better for it.

The other option for you would be to homeschool. i find I am able to teach my children the truth of God,and expose them to the "real world" as people like to say, in a way that does not send them confusing messages. When we do encounter these messages, we seek truth. They will have the spiritual foundation and tools to be in the adult world without fear, adn very strong, and able to take the gospel to anyone, because of their foundation. KNowledge is power, if it has been given in the proper doses, with the proper intent, and guidance. Unfortunatley the public schools fail at this, not because the teachers are bad, etc. But the schools are too full, there is no way these kids will get the attention they need. And you also have all the "special interest groups" with their agendas being pushed at every turn. My daughter got in trouble for bringing her bible to school, when we had her in school, and the girl who sat next to her was reading her Quaran, and praying OUTLOUD!!! Is this where we want our children, the arrows the God has entrusted to us? Homeschool has been the most rewarding, beautiful, and hardest thing I have ever done, but how can I stand before God, and say "I know you wanted me to do better for the children, I could have, I was just scared to do it, what if I messed up?" Eeeeek, that is far scarier than possibly messing up their education, don't you think?

 

[agkitty]

As for the Harry Potter thing, I have not read it, but if you and your daughter feel she should not have anything to do with it, then as a parent you have the RIGHT, regardless of what the courts say, to determine what your child is exposed ot. However people please keep in my that when we allow our children to go into arenas that have questionable values, like public schools, then we are taking the chance our children will be exposed, then we are fighting battles that could have been prevented. I truly feel that homeschool is the best option, if you can, I do understand that some families have to have both parents working, or are single parents, thenthey need the support and prayer from us.

 

[bumblebee62331]

My main point probably is that the whole listening to the Harry Potter book thing that your daughter is expected to do, isn't on the teaching plan. She doesn't get graded. She doesn't get quizzed on it. It won't affect her college applications. Therefore, she should have a right to listen to it, or go outside and snack, or read something else, or do some school work or make Christmas cards - anything.

I don't think it's going "too far" by talking to the teacher about this. I've already made my points, but I do feel it was a bad choice by the school to permit the book played in class. There are obviously going to be people against it and they should have thought of that. Just because it's a public school doesn't mean there are no religious people there. I went to a public school for a number of years and there was quite an active Christian group there.

If your daughter doesn't wish to listen to the Harry Potter book, she has every right to ask to be left out of it.

 

[blessedmomof5]

ok she is listening to the hp the first one the sorcer somethign or other??? yeah was listening, anyway she to ask on monday isf she can sit elsewhere during snack.......so will do on monday, the band teacher with the good Lords help i will let go''''' Lord right?

 

[bumblebee62331]

ok she is listening to the hp the first one the sorcer somethign or other??? yeah was listening, anyway she to ask on monday isf she can sit elsewhere during snack.......so will do on monday, the band teacher with the good Lords help i will let go''''' Lord right?

That sounds like Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. It's the first book in the series. Good luck with Monday, let us know what happens

 

[blessedmomof5]

Kate was that a movie? and what does that mean was that one of the better ones? if there is such a thing? if it was a movie it must have been rated also, hey do they rate books? let me do a search......thanks
Denise

 

[bumblebee62331]

Kate was that a movie? and what does that mean was that one of the better ones? if there is such a thing? if it was a movie it must have been rated also, hey do they rate books? let me do a search......thanks
Denise

Yup.. ok, the Harry Potter series is as follows:

1st Book - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (or Philosopher's Stone depending on which country you are in)
2nd Book - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
3rd Book - Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
4th Book - Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
5th Book - Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
6th Book - Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
7th Book - Yet to be released. This one should be the final book.

The ones in RED have been made into movies so far. Goblet of Fire is the most recent one, it came out in Australia today and was out earlier in the USA and I think England.

I know they rate movies but I don't think they rate the books as such. I know I can find the Harry Potter books in the "teenager" section at most libraries. That strikes some consideration because "teenager" is from 13 years old and if your daughter is 9, then it's inappropriate to be reading at a school. It has scary parts in it, I think our movies were all rated PG 13+ (another example of how the book is inappropriately being read to children younger than 13 without parental guidance!) Basically children under the age of 13 can see the movie but must have parents with them. As the movie left out a lot of details, it would only figure that children under the age of 13 should not read the book until their parental figure has read it and deemed it okay to read.

You could use this as part of your argument? I'm not sure what the rating system is in the USA, but it must be similar.

EDIT: The earlier books were less dark. As the series progresses, it gets darker and darker, with a couple of large deaths in the later books. The earlier ones were more light-hearted and fun, but it got very serious from about the third or fourth book.

So yes, the book your daughter is listening to is perhaps the lightest and most appropriate out of the series - however, that doesn't make it ok for them to have it played in a class with 9 year-olds in it.

 

[blessedmomof5]

thanks again , you have been a big help with hp i was clueless....about the movies and books.... now i have a good case but i will look up and see what the american version is for the standard age requirements...thanks as always.
Denise

 

[bumblebee62331]

thanks again , you have been a big help with hp i was clueless....about the movies and books.... now i have a good case but i will look up and see what the american version is for the standard age requirements...thanks as always.
Denise

No problem

 

[blessedmomof5]

UPDATE and thanks for all the advice

ok i did not know his parents were murdered? and people let there children watch this? ok actaullay this was an update..
althea came home on monday and said mommy now we have workbooks to go along with the HP tapes Praise the Lord that was the day of my confrence, so i told the teacher my views i was hoping to get a little more into why take out GOD and stck in witchcraft but never got the chance...oh well i am sure there will be another day.....she will be allowed to go to the other classroom during that time and do other timgs...Amen. no evil influeniences, for such a young child.

now lets see see what happens with the letter i wrote the band teacher and went a cop to the principal and the superientant of schools.....does it ever end?

 

[bumblebee62331]

UPDATE and thanks for all the advice

ok i did not know his parents were murdered? and people let there children watch this? ok actaullay this was an update..
althea came home on monday and said mommy now we have workbooks to go along with the HP tapes Praise the Lord that was the day of my confrence, so i told the teacher my views i was hoping to get a little more into why take out GOD and stck in witchcraft but never got the chance...oh well i am sure there will be another day.....she will be allowed to go to the other classroom during that time and do other timgs...Amen. no evil influeniences, for such a young child.

now lets see see what happens with the letter i wrote the band teacher and went a cop to the principal and the superientant of schools.....does it ever end?

Hey congrats it worked out!

Although I am disturbed about the workbooks. I think schools are seeing how popular Harry Potter is and trying to "cash in" on it by being the school that studies Harry Potter and has workbooks etc. That's just overkill.

I'm so glad your daughter is allowed to go elsewhere. Perhaps she could be given a Christian workbook to do during that time? That means she is still doing sort of the same thing (ie, not being left out completely) but it's good for her religious growth?

 

[blessedmomof5]

trust me i Doubt very much they will be giving althea a christian book in a public school although cassidy is writing a story about Christmas her teacher was showing me what it was about and all she mentioned was Jesus and his birth, and how he came to save us, not one word on santa and presents, i told him her teacher it was a rough copy she should get an A just for not mentioning any of the stuff that really had no meaning of christmas....i said thats my Girl. i was a proud momma.....

 

[bumblebee62331]

trust me i Doubt very much they will be giving althea a christian book in a public school although cassidy is writing a story about Christmas her teacher was showing me what it was about and all she mentioned was Jesus and his birth, and how he came to save us, not one word on santa and presents, i told him her teacher it was a rough copy she should get an A just for not mentioning any of the stuff that really had no meaning of christmas....i said thats my Girl. i was a proud momma.....

She sounds like a beautiful girl!

She knows the true meaning behind Christmas!

 

[Luv4Trolls]

Awesomeness!

 

[blessedmomof5]

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