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Must have been a slip of the tongue....

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I am really bothered by the continued assertion that Hussein and Al Quaeda are somehow linked.  Where is the proof?

The terrorists want this war.  Their two foes are about to fight it out with the added bonus of the world being more united against the U.S. than ever.

This is a great day for the terrorists...I doubt they could be happier.
 
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Today at 10:25 PM Starscream said this in Post #3

I am really bothered by the continued assertion that Hussein and Al Quaeda are somehow linked.  Where is the proof?

The terrorists want this war.  Their two foes are about to fight it out with the added bonus of the world being more united against the U.S. than ever.

This is a great day for the terrorists...I doubt they could be happier.

Hmm. No offense, but didn't people say a lot of the same stuff about Afghanistan?

Where's the proof? I dunno. Supporting evidence? There's some. Maybe not enough, but the fact is, when Afghanistan got taken, interesting stuff was found. Iraq is a large country and has the resources to hide a fair number of people...
 
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Today at 11:25 PM Starscream said this in Post #3

I am really bothered by the continued assertion that Hussein and Al Quaeda are somehow linked.  Where is the proof?

The terrorists want this war.  Their two foes are about to fight it out with the added bonus of the world being more united against the U.S. than ever.

This is a great day for the terrorists...I doubt they could be happier.
Try reading this;[pong]Interview with Sabah Khodada-AIRDATE: NOVEMBER 8, 2001-Frontline,Public Broadcasting System [/pong]
After your service in the army, you worked for a secret part of the Iraqi government?

Some of it is not very secretive. But there's another part, which has a lot to do with international terrorism and this kind of operation -- this is very secretive.

Maybe you could tell me what this section is called, and who runs it. And what did it do?

It's called the Division of Special Operations. ... This whole camp where their training is run by the Iraqi [security service]... The government organization [that] basically possesses or have control of the camp is the Iraqi intelligence. But different training people who come, they are headed or sent by different people in the Iraqi government.

You say that this is a secret camp. But what was it like? Was it something you drove by and could see on the highway? Did you need special clearance to go there? How would you describe this place, this location?

If you're driving on those farm roads, you could probably see the edges of the camp, but you wouldn't realize this is a special camp. The camp is huge. And the locations for the training are far from anybody can see them from the outside. But even when we have visitors, even at the level of a minister, or even higher than a minister in the Iraqi government, they will have to drive around the camp or be driven in the camp inside very specific type of a vehicle. They will sit on the back seat, for example, of this vehicle and they would have ... in addition to the shaded windows, they will have to pull down curtains and they snap those curtains on the bottom, to make sure nobody can see anything outside this vehicle while they're driven around.

This is even government officials [who] are not allowed to see this kind of training?

Yes. At the very highest level, they cannot see this training.

What kind of training went on, and who was being trained?

Training is majorly on terrorism . They would be trained on assassinations, kidnapping, hijacking of airplanes, hijacking of buses, public buses, hijacking of trains and all other kinds of operations related to terrorism.

So did you find out what kind of training was going on?

I don't necessarily know what kind of training they do, but they were trained exactly at the same locations, and they were trained by the same teachers who were training ... [the fighters for] Saddam. Training includes hijacking and kidnapping of airplanes, trains, public buses, and planting explosives in cities, sabotaging villages, sabotaging houses, assassinations.

And the training also included how to prepare for suicidal operations. For example, they will train them how to belt themselves around with explosives, and jump in a place and explode themselves out as part of the suicidal training. I think the trainings of the Arabs was much harsher, and much stricter, than the training of the Iraqis.

For the rest of the interview,


click here :)
 
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Today at 10:31 PM seebs said this in Post #4



Hmm. No offense, but didn't people say a lot of the same stuff about Afghanistan?

Where's the proof? I dunno. Supporting evidence? There's some. Maybe not enough, but the fact is, when Afghanistan got taken, interesting stuff was found. Iraq is a large country and has the resources to hide a fair number of people...

Yes, they did, and I think U.S. intelligence did a great job making their case to support that charge, why should it be any different this time?

(BTW, at that time the Taliban wasn't denying thier relationship with OSB, they were denying that OSB caused 9/11.  Again, allied intelligence proved otherwise.)

Iraq, like many other countries is large and can hide a lot of people - I don't see how this proves anything though.

I think we're supposed to be the good guys - and if we're going to use 9/11 as an excuse to bomb another nation then I think the onus is on us to prove the link between OSB and Hussein (who both detest each other).

Regardless, OSB is extremely pleased right now.
 
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