Musk throws journalist off Twitter.

[ThatRobGuy]

He offers the teen 5,000 to stop

I'm an IT guy, I know how to hook into some public APIs for flight trackers and have some experience with the Twitter APIs to make scheduled posts on a timed interval.

Is it really that easy to get a 5,000 dollar offer? lol

Quick, start giving me the list of celebs who really take privacy seriously!

 

[Always in His Presence]

Let’s recap:

Twitter suspends the nations oldest newspaper- Twitter is good, Twitter is wise

Twitter suspends the Presidents press secretary for sending a direct message they didn’t like. - Twitter is good, Twitter is wise

Twitter suspends reporters for Doxing - a direct violation of long time rules. Twitter is bad- Twitter is stupid

 

[Pommer]

Yes now he has. But he created the rule, then banned people for tweets they made before the violation of the rule. The backlash seems to be the only reason he reinstated the accounts of the journalists, who were simply reporting on something he had done.

Only Congress is barred from creating (criminal) ex post facto laws; private companies are free to change the rules and behave badly.

 

[Arcangl86]

Only Congress is barred from creating (criminal) ex post facto laws; private companies are free to change the rules and behave badly.

Well yes. But I'm still going to criticize him for it. Especially somebody who made such a big deal about having an issue with Twitter censorship.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Well yes. But I'm still going to criticize him for it. Especially somebody who made such a big deal about having an issue with Twitter censorship.

Well, yes, you can have an issue with the previous leaders' brand of censorship and still not be a full-blown anarchist, I don't see that as a 100% contradiction.

On a 1-10 scale of censorship, the previous leadership was an 8, Elon Musk is a 2 or 3.

The fact that he may not be perfect, doesn't mean the problem he described was non-existent.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

I was discussing over lunch with my cousin earlier and used this analogy/hypothetical to describe what the situation is like.

If the movie theater in my town was run by panel of staunch evangelicals, and they were blocking/banning tons of movies from being shown there on the grounds of what they thought was offensive, I would have a problem with that. If I were an uber-rich guy, I would be trying to make a bid to buy and take over the movie theater and remove that kind of censorship. One of my selling points (to reach out to other like-minded people) would be to describe myself as an "artistic expression advocate", "anti-censorship absolutist", and that I was going to "protect movie-making freedoms at all costs"

If I succeeded in taking it over, and the first thing my opponents did was to try to immediately put in the most vile, disgusting, things they could find, knowing that it would eventually cross my comfort-level line and make me say "yeah, this is my theater, I'm not screening that here" just so they could "prove a point about how Rob is a hypocrite", that really wouldn't be an entirely fair critique, and certainly wouldn't negate the existence of the previously existing problem I was trying to solve in the first place by taking it away from the previous leadership.

The problem with your analogy is that this account isn't new and hasn't changed anything since Musk took over. It's been reporting the movements of his jet for a couple years now.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Let’s recap:

Twitter suspends the nations oldest newspaper- Twitter is good, Twitter is wise

The NY Post wasn't suspended. A post or two on a particularly story was "deemphasized" in the algorith (kept from trending). Anyone could link to it.

Twitter suspends the Presidents press secretary for sending a direct message they didn’t like. - Twitter is good, Twitter is wise

I have no idea what this is about, but given the source, I doubt it was Jen Psaki, and I can't remember all 23 of Trump's Press Secretaries.

Twitter suspends reporters for Doxing - a direct violation of long time rules. Twitter is bad- Twitter is stupid

The owner of the "elonjet" account was suspended for "doxxing". The reporters were supspended for criticizing the new site overlord and pointing out that the same account was still active on other social media sites and the data being published was publicly available.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

Whatever happened to Twitter being a private company that can do what they want? It's not the government that's doing it, is it? See how these journalists like the taste of their own medicine...

 

[KCfromNC]

Let's remember the history behind this: Jan 2022

Elon Musk offered teen $5K to delete Twitter tracking his private jet

Musk reached out to 19-year-old college student Jack Sweeney to express concern about a Twitter account he runs called @ElonJet.

nypost.com

He offers the teen 5,000 to stop - the teen countered with $50,000.00 .

Two business people disagreeing on the value of an asset. Happens all the time, welcome to capitalism.

 

[KCfromNC]

From the link provided:

The pair exchanged several more messages, with Musk pressing for details on how Sweeney set up the bots and what he earned by operating them. Eventually, Musk offered $5,000 to delete the account.​

Again, not sure why this thread has taken a turn towards pretending that business people making money is a bad thing, but again, this is kinda the basis of how a capitalist society works. Kinda weird to point it out like it means anything when someone in particular does it.

 

[Always in His Presence]

The NY Post wasn't suspended. A post or two on a particularly story was "deemphasized" in the algorith (kept from trending). Anyone could link to it.

Nope

Twitter, Facebook censor Post over Hunter Biden exposé

Both Twitter and Facebook took extraordinary censorship measures against The Post on Wednesday over its exposés about Hunter Biden’s emails — with Twitter baselessly charging that &#822…

nypost.com

The Post’s primary Twitter account was locked as of 2:20 p.m. Wednesday because its articles about the messages obtained from Biden’s laptop broke the social network’s rules against “distribution of hacked material,” according to an email The Post received from Twitter.

Twitter also blocked users from sharing the link to The Post article indicating that Hunter Biden introduced Joe Biden to the Ukrainian businessman, calling the link “potentially harmful.”

 

[Landon Caeli]

Elon Musk warned he faces EU sanctions after booting journalists off Twitter

The sudden, sweeping purge comes after controversy over Twitter suspending an account which tracked Elon Musk's private plane. The billionaire had previously indicated that he was so committed to free speech on Twitter, that even the jet bot would not be banned.

news.sky.com

So much for his commitment to free speech.

Did musk say he wanted absolute free-speech on Twitter? Like with death threats and pornographic memes included?

...I think not.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Twitter suspends reporters for Doxing - a direct violation of long time rules.

Nope.
A direct violation of rules created the day before the suspension.

But shortly after taking over Twitter, Musk said @ElonJet could remain because he believed in free speech. “My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk,” he tweeted in November.
On Wednesday morning, the account, which had amassed nearly 530,000 followers, was suspended for breaking Twitter rules, without the company identifying what they were. Shortly after that, Sweeney’s personal account was also suspended.
The bans took place a day after Twitter changed its policy on sharing “live location” information.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Did musk say he wanted absolute free-speech on Twitter? Like with death threats and pornographic memes included?

...I think not.

What he said was that he would allow all legal speech.

But it turns out that he had an extreme antibody reaction to some legal speech.

Pornography, btw, is and always has been okay on Twitter. "Pornography and other forms of consensually produced adult content are allowed on Twitter, provided that this media is marked as sensitive."

 

[Goonie]

Did musk say he wanted absolute free-speech on Twitter? Like with death threats and pornographic memes included?

...I think not.

Sorry journalists reporting on a story is legal, unless you’re living in North Korea, Russia, or some other hell hole.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

Who cares anyway? Is Elon Musk going to melt into goo like the Wicked Witch of the West just because he isn’t 100% consistent in his support for free speech? People who were wrongfully banned are getting back on. Can I we just be happy about that?

 

[ralliann]

Two business people disagreeing on the value of an asset. Happens all the time, welcome to capitalism.

Except we find out it was the FBI, Cia, (pick other intelligence agencies) peddling misinformation through them. Welcome to socialistic communism.

 

[Desk trauma]

Except we find out it was the FBI, Cia, (pick other intelligence agencies) peddling misinformation through them. Welcome to socialistic communism.

The CIA, well known supporters of international communism.

 

[adrianmonk]

I'm an IT guy, I know how to hook into some public APIs for flight trackers and have some experience with the Twitter APIs to make scheduled posts on a timed interval.

Is it really that easy to get a 5,000 dollar offer? lol

Quick, start giving me the list of celebs who really take privacy seriously!

You can start with Barbara Streisand.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Who cares anyway?

Certainly the government shouldn't care about what messages a private company wants to suppress or promote on its own platform. But it still sounds like that's on the GOP's first order of business when they take control of the House.

And I'm getting whiplash from seeing some conservative opinion-havers zig from wanting moderation on social media platforms fixed by the government because private companies shouldn't be allowed to decide who uses their platforms now zagging over to 'who cares if private companies decide who uses their platforms?'