Musk says Trump is named in the Epstein files and that's why they haven't been released

[BPPLEE]

So did he make up the claim about Trump’s ties to Epstein or is he trying to make up and be nice to the alleged pdf.file?

I don't know, Musk is alleged to have a drug problem

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Even assuming that what Musk says isn't just a lie, that just means that Musk was perfectly willing to serve Trump until the time when Trump wasn't useful anymore.

What does that say about Musk?

Also keep in mind that it would be unusual if Musk would allow his son to be around Trump knowing he was a pedophile. My assumption is that Musk was upset that Trump was going to cut the government subsidies on EVs and made a drunk text on X while high on some cocktail of drugs.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

So did he make up the claim about Trump’s ties to Epstein or is he trying to make up and be nice to the alleged pdf.file?

It wouldn't be surprising if Trump was mentioned in the reports. Trump openly stated before running for president that he visited the Island once and immediately left when he found underage girls swimming in the pool. There is also reports of Trump cooperating with law enforcement. Some say that Trump was very influential in Epstine getting convicted.

 

[Bradskii]

It wouldn't be surprising if Trump was mentioned in the reports. Trump openly stated before running for president that he visited the Island once and immediately left when he found underage girls swimming in the pool.

From here: Did Trump Admit Going Into Changing Room of Beauty Pageant Contestants?

'Well, I'll tell you the funniest is that before a show, I'll go backstage and everyone's getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it. You know, I'm inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good. [...] You know, the dresses. 'Is everyone okay?' You know, they're standing there with no clothes. 'Is everybody okay?' And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that.'

And you want to try to convince us that Trump was offended by young girls in a pool? Please don't insult my intelligence.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

From here: Did Trump Admit Going Into Changing Room of Beauty Pageant Contestants?

'Well, I'll tell you the funniest is that before a show, I'll go backstage and everyone's getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it. You know, I'm inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good. [...] You know, the dresses. 'Is everyone okay?' You know, they're standing there with no clothes. 'Is everybody okay?' And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that.'

And you want to try to convince us that Trump was offended by young girls in a pool? Please don't insult my intelligence.

“Hey man… I came to secret underage sex island for some fun in the sun and a couple mai tais. That’s it! Nobody told me there would be underage girls here!”

 

[Oompa Loompa]

From here: Did Trump Admit Going Into Changing Room of Beauty Pageant Contestants?

'Well, I'll tell you the funniest is that before a show, I'll go backstage and everyone's getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it. You know, I'm inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good. [...] You know, the dresses. 'Is everyone okay?' You know, they're standing there with no clothes. 'Is everybody okay?' And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that.'

And you want to try to convince us that Trump was offended by young girls in a pool? Please don't insult my intelligence.

Indeed. If one takes issue with beauty pageants, I must ask—where is the concern for due process? [Clutching my pearls in mock astonishment.] I hope this commitment to fairness is remembered the next time I refer to Kilmar Garcia as a “wife-beating gangster” deserving of deportation to El Salvador. Thank you.

 

[Bradskii]

Indeed. If one takes issue with beauty pageants, I must ask—where is the concern for due process?

That makes no sense whatsoever.

I hope this commitment to fairness is remembered the next time I refer to Kilmar Garcia as a “wife-beating gangster” deserving of deportation to El Salvador. Thank you.

So what happened to the people smuggling? The problems that he had with his wife form no part of the charges made against him since his return. Absolutely none whatsoever. In fact, he and his wife have worked through any marital problems:

'"We were able to work through this situation privately as a family, including by going to counseling," Vasquez Sura said. "Kilmar has always been a loving partner and father, and I will continue to stand by him and demand justice for him."

So hey, they are nothing to do with you. And nothing to do with anything, even as a comparison, with what Trump has done. Whether he is an 'alleged' gangster will be decided by the courts. Which is what people have been arguing for ever since he was deported without due process. Trump said he couldn't be returned. He lied. Bondi said it wasn't going to happen. She lied. Miller said he was going to stay there. But they all lied to you (I know...you're astonished). Now he's back he will be granted the due process as the judiciary demanded.

Of course, none of us want to prejudge the result of his court case. That would be, by definition, prejudicial to his case. Any lawyer worth his or her salt would understand that. Oh, except the Attorney General. Who said on record: MSN

"Upon completion of his sentence...he was a smuggler of humans and women and children...the grand jury found that over the last nine years...etc etc'

First up, a grand jury does not decide on the guilt or the innocence of anyone. They simply decide if there is enough evidence presented by the prosecutor to enable a court to proceed with a case which will then decide whether the person is guilty or not. So the grand jury found nothing. Except that the prosecution had evidence that they would present.

Secondly, and much more importantly, you can't accuse someone of being guilty before a case has even begun. You can refer to what the person has allegedly done, but that's the limit. Maybe she was away from law school the day they covered that.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Let me break it down more simply. There is no evidence that Trump is a pedophile.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Let me break it down more simply. There is no evidence that Trump is a pedophile.

Did someone here call him one?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Did someone here call him one?

Elon Musk and those in this forum who believes him.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Elon Musk

Elon Musk is not here, and he claims to have had access to materials that are not available to the general public, so there's no way of really knowing if he has evidence of Trump being a pedo. Unless, of course, Trump releases the Epstein files. That would settle things.

and those in this forum who believes him.

I don't see anyone making the claim here - just objecting to your claim that Trump's statements about his reaction to visiting Epstein's island somehow prove that he isn't a pedo.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Elon Musk is not here, and he claims to have had access to materials that are not available to the general public, so there's no way of really knowing if he has evidence of Trump being a pedo. Unless, of course, Trump releases the Epstein files. That would settle things.

I don't see anyone making the claim here - just objecting to your claim that Trump's statements about his reaction to visiting Epstein's island somehow prove that he isn't a pedo.

Then explain to @Bradskii what beauty pageants has to do with this thread topic? He brought it up after all. I just assumed that he was implying that it was evidence that Trump is an Epstine Island pedophile like Bill Clinton.

 

[Bradskii]

Let me break it down more simply. There is no evidence that Trump is a pedophile.

I don't think anyone is accusing him of being a Martian either. And..?

 

[Bradskii]

Then explain to @Bradskii what beauty pageants has to do with this thread topic? He brought it up after all. I just assumed that he was implying that it was evidence that Trump is an Epstine Island pedophile like Bill Clinton.

Maybe someone will be along later to explain to you the difference between statutory rape and paedophilia.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

I don't think anyone is accusing him of being a Martian either. And..?

And? So why did you bring up beauty pageants? Please explain other to insinuate that Trump is guilty of being a pedophile without any due process?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Maybe someone will be along later to explain to you the difference between statutory rape and paedophilia.

Legally, all statuary rape is pedophilia, what is your point?

 

[BPPLEE]

Legally, all statuary rape is pedophilia, what is your point?

A pedophile is only interested in children who haven't went through puberty.
Ephebophilia is the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19

 

[Tinker Grey]

Legally, all statuary rape is pedophilia, what is your point?

You don't know how words work. (Or, what @BPPLEE said.)

 

[FenderTL5]

There is no evidence that Trump is a pedophile.

That's not totally accurate, there is some evidence that Trump could be a pedophile. For starters, we have Trump's own admission of ogling underage girls in the dressing rooms of the pageant he was involved in. We know for a fact that he spent time with Epstein. If (if) he is indeed in the Epstein files that could be further evidence toward that conclusion.
That said, even I would not want Trump incarcerated or deported as a pedophile without due process, standing trial, first.

Personally, I oppose sentencing before an actual conviction.

 

[Bradskii]

And? So why did you bring up beauty pageants?

Because you laughingly insinuated that he'd leave a party if there were young girls swimming in a pool, but totally ignore that he has literally admitted going into changing rooms to watch young women changing. The guy is an admitted sleaze.