music

[DaRev]

"Ask and I'll give you the nations"...

Hmmm... isn't that what Satan said to Jesus in the wilderness?

 

[Tofferer]

I really like Michael W.Smith "Healing Rain". Probably not the most scriptural of songs, but I rather like it.

 

[DaRev]

I really like Michael W.Smith "Healing Rain". Probably not the most scriptural of songs, but I rather like it.

Hey, dude, how comes the dog?

 

[Radiata]

"Ask and I'll give you the nations"...

Hmmm... isn't that what Satan said to Jesus in the wilderness?

Exactly. It just seems wrong. It may mean that I ask for the nations so that I can turn them Christian, because outreach is hugely important at IVCF, but even so I just don't get it. Another said that it was an arrangement of a psalm, but I forgot which. Hmm, what to do?

 

[DaRev]

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[DaRev]

Exactly. It just seems wrong. It may mean that I ask for the nations so that I can turn them Christian, because outreach is hugely important at IVCF, but even so I just don't get it. Another said that it was an arrangement of a psalm, but I forgot which. Hmm, what to do?

It is from Psalm 2, but the context is of the Father telling the Son "Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Thine inheritance, And the very ends of the earth as Thy possession." The song makes it sound like if we ask for the nations it will be given to us. That's not at all what the Psalm is saying.

 

[Radiata]

Two things. Should we be singing about God in our worship, or should we be singing to God in our worship?

And secondly, there is a song called "His Eyes" by Steven Curtis Chapman. I'm still trying to figure out worship and knowing the feedback from this song, I would be able to find out a lot. I'm amazed that there isn't a video that I can find of it. Here are the lyrics.

Sometimes His eye were gentle
And filled with laughter
And sometimes they cried
Sometimes there was a fire
Of holy anger
In Jesus' eyes
But the eyes that saw hope in the hopeless
That saw through the fault to the need
Are the same eyes that look down from heaven
Into the deepest part of you and me

His eyes are always upon us
His eyes never close in sleep
And no matter where you go
You will always be in His eyes

Sometimes His voice comes calling
Like rolling thunder
Or like driving rain
And sometimes His voice is quiet
And we start to wonder
If He knows our pain
But He who spoke peace to the water
Cares more for our heart than the waves
And the voice that once said "You're forgiven"
Still says "You're forgiven" today

Sometimes I look above me when stars are shinning
And I feel so small
How could the God of heaven and all creation
Know I'm here at all
But then in the silence He whispers
"My child, I created you too
And you're my most precious creation
I even gave my Son for you"

His eyes are always upon you
His eyes never close in sleep
And no matter where you go you will always be
You will always be in His eyes
No matter where you go
You will always be in His eyes

Sometimes His eyes were gentle
And filled with laughter

 

[DaRev]

Two things. Should we be singing about God in our worship, or should we be singing to God in our worship?

Yes.

Songs about God are examples of prayers of adoration, acknowledging Him and His grace, power, and love.

Remember, all of our singing in the worship service is directed to Him. It is one of our sacrificial acts of worship in response to His work done to and for us.

And secondly, there is a song called "His Eyes" by Steven Curtis Chapman. I'm still trying to figure out worship and knowing the feedback from this song, I would be able to find out a lot. I'm amazed that there isn't a video that I can find of it. Here are the lyrics.

I don't see anything in those lyrics that would be objectionable.

 

[Zecryphon]

Two things. Should we be singing about God in our worship, or should we be singing to God in our worship?

And secondly, there is a song called "His Eyes" by Steven Curtis Chapman. I'm still trying to figure out worship and knowing the feedback from this song, I would be able to find out a lot. I'm amazed that there isn't a video that I can find of it. Here are the lyrics.

Two things. Should we be singing about God in our worship, or should we be singing to God in our worship?

I think this question is more of a heart issue than a question that has a definitive answer. For me, it's both. We should always be singing to God, but what are we singing to God? What we're singing to God should be about God. Now that's not to say that every person in a church is in fact singing to God. There could be people there, I'm thinknig of teenagers here, that are resentful there even in church on a Sunday and are not really worshipping God by singing the lyrics on the PowerPoint presentation, but are just singing about God. Does that make sense?

And secondly, there is a song called "His Eyes" by Steven Curtis Chapman. I'm still trying to figure out worship and knowing the feedback from this song, I would be able to find out a lot. I'm amazed that there isn't a video that I can find of it. Here are the lyrics.

I'm not sure I understand the question. What is it about worship that you're still trying to figure out?

 

[Radiata]

Yes.

Songs about God are examples of prayers of adoration, acknowledging Him and His grace, power, and love.

Remember, all of our singing in the worship service is directed to Him. It is one of our sacrificial acts of worship in response to His work done to and for us.

Right. I was asking if when talking about God, we should sing, You are... or He is...

I was at work when I said a prayer, but I sang it. I used the melody from "Fontof Every Blessing" and spoke to God in song. I don't know why it took allthis time for me to finally understand it, but Worship comes from yourself.It does not come from someone else's song that you are simply repeating. Itwas without a doubt the most effective worship that I have ever done. Evenwith my off-key pitch, and non-rhyming words, I worshiped in song from myown heart and it was good.

I don't see anything in those lyrics that would be objectionable.

The reason I ask is because it was from Steven Curtis Chapman, who has gotten some negative feedback from us before. Plus, he has a chrous that is repeated once. But that's enough of that. With your comment, I think that I have figured another few things out.

I think this question is more of a heart issue than a question that has a definitive answer. For me, it's both. We should always be singing to God, but what are we singing to God? What we're singing to God should be about God. Now that's not to say that every person in a church is in fact singing to God. There could be people there, I'm thinknig of teenagers here, that are resentful there even in church on a Sunday and are not really worshipping God by singing the lyrics on the PowerPoint presentation, but are just singing about God. Does that make sense?



I'm not sure I understand the question. What is it about worship that you're still trying to figure out?

I have a few things left to understand When I was younger, I might as well have just kept quiet during worship. Sometimes I would be worshiping, but all too often, I had already memorized the words, and let my mind wander while my mouth spoke what my head wasn't thinking. That has all changed. Now I'm trying to actually understand everything instead of just going along with it. Theology isn't something that is taught in my church. In fact, my church's facebook group description, it says: If you know "Room 16" and "The Youth Room" are interchangable...

If you've ever wondered how Pastor Paul can come up with so many diagrams...

If you've spent hours in someone else's living room or basement trying to achieve one thing - confirmation!...

If you have been going to Faith Lutheran all your life and don't know a thing about Lutheranism... Than this is the group for you.

I didn't know a thing before I came to CF. Now I'm trying to catch up on everything.

 

[Zecryphon]

Right. I was asking if when talking about God, we should sing, You are... or He is...

I was at work when I said a prayer, but I sang it. I used the melody from "Fontof Every Blessing" and spoke to God in song. I don't know why it took allthis time for me to finally understand it, but Worship comes from yourself.It does not come from someone else's song that you are simply repeating. Itwas without a doubt the most effective worship that I have ever done. Evenwith my off-key pitch, and non-rhyming words, I worshiped in song from myown heart and it was good.


The reason I ask is because it was from Steven Curtis Chapman, who has gotten some negative feedback from us before. Plus, he has a chrous that is repeated once. But that's enough of that. With your comment, I think that I have figured another few things out.

I have a few things left to understand When I was younger, I might as well have just kept quiet during worship. Sometimes I would be worshiping, but all too often, I had already memorized the words, and let my mind wander while my mouth spoke what my head wasn't thinking. That has all changed. Now I'm trying to actually understand everything instead of just going along with it. Theology isn't something that is taught in my church. In fact, my church's facebook group description, it says: If you know "Room 16" and "The Youth Room" are interchangable...

If you've ever wondered how Pastor Paul can come up with so many diagrams...

If you've spent hours in someone else's living room or basement trying to achieve one thing - confirmation!...

If you have been going to Faith Lutheran all your life and don't know a thing about Lutheranism... Than this is the group for you.

I didn't know a thing before I came to CF. Now I'm trying to catch up on everything.

I didn't know a thing before I came to CF. Now I'm trying to catch up on everything.

I know how you feel. I became a Lutheran officially in February of last year. But I suspect I've probably been a closet-Lutheran for many years. LOL I'm still learning as much as I can and sometimes feel overwhelmed at all there is to know and feel like I'll never know it all. LOL