music

[LutheranHawkeye]

I don't analyze the theology, because CCM is not permitted in the Divine Service. The music is just crap.

 

[cerette]

Hahahah am I really hearing that some confessional Lutherans are listening to CCM? Okay from a theological standpoint it's all about the "me". So of course most of you would agree with me that it should not be played during the divine service. From a musical standpoint I think it's all absolute crap. I like pop and country music and just about everything but rap and ccm. CCM takes pop music and mutilates it with horrible lyrics. I would say that by listening to CCM your IQ falls while your evangelical factor gains each time you listen to it. If I was an unbeliever and walked into a house and CCM was playing I would vomit and walk out. As a confessional Lutheran if I heard that in a house I would vomit and walk out? See the difference? The only break through that CCM had was making cheesy an actual genre. I'm 19 and the target audience that CCM is trying to aim for. Sad

In my opinion CCM has no place in Divine Service. I am not impressed by so called contemporary services either.
However, I may listen to music in my home while doing housework etc. In those moments I sometimes enjoy listening to CCM, even songs that are theologically wrong. (See my OP) Like DaRev said earlier, compared to all the songs about fornication and so on, I would rather listen to songs about Jesus even if not all lyrics are correct.

 

[BabyLutheran]

I agree that it doesn't belong in the Liturgy, but saying it's all crap is very...hmm, I can't think of the appropriate word.

Rich Mullins singing the creed to modern music, word for word. To me that's not crap.

What would you propose we listen to in our every day world, Nordic?

 

[LutheranHawkeye]

Any genre. I usually listen to just instrumental. Jazz, Classical, and a lot of oldies. Why not listen to great music instead of Oh JESUS OH JESUS YEAH YEAH I LOVE YOU LONG TIME. Because that's basically what it is. I guess if you want to try to fit into the evangelical mold you can. Bad theology. Bad music. Amen

 

[DaRev]

Any genre. I usually listen to just instrumental. Jazz, Classical, and a lot of oldies. Why not listen to great music instead of Oh JESUS OH JESUS YEAH YEAH I LOVE YOU LONG TIME. Because that's basically what it is. I guess if you want to try to fit into the evangelical mold you can. Bad theology. Bad music. Amen

Not all of it is like that. Some (albeit a few) are actually very good.

Have you ever listened to Lost and Found?
(Click the little speaker above my post for a sample.)

 

[porterross]

Hear hear, Da Rev!

There are some songs that are not all about ME.

Frequently Psalms are set to pop music. Kutless does so on a couple of their songs.

They also have a good song where they actually say "your body's the bread, your blood is the wine."

I looked them up online, I don't believe any of them is Lutheran, so it was unbelievable that they actually sing those lyrics.

I really like Kutless, Shawn McDonald, Third Day, Mercy Me, Casting Crowns, Mark Shultz, Plumb, etc. and Red (Breathe Into Me) is some good workout noise! It's pretty much all we listen to between MP3's and The Message on XM Radio, but I wouldn't want to hear anything like it during DW.


Lost and Found....uh, NO!

 

[DaRev]

I really like Kutless, Shawn McDonald, Third Day, Mercy Me, Casting Crowns, Mark Shultz, Plumb, etc. and Red (Breathe Into Me) is some good workout noise! It's pretty much all we listen to between MP3's and The Message on XM Radio, but I wouldn't want to hear anything like it during DW.

Lost and Found....uh, NO!

Blasphemy!!!!!!

I thought all Lutherans liked Lost and Found. You really have to experience one of their shows to "get it".

 

[porterross]

Blasphemy!!!!!!

I thought all Lutherans liked Lost and Found. You really have to experience one of their shows to "get it".

 

[DaRev]

You need to be enlightened.

 

[porterross]

You need to be enlightened.

 

[DaRev]

You need to be enlightened.

 

[BabyLutheran]

Any genre. I usually listen to just instrumental. Jazz, Classical, and a lot of oldies. Why not listen to great music instead of Oh JESUS OH JESUS YEAH YEAH I LOVE YOU LONG TIME. Because that's basically what it is. I guess if you want to try to fit into the evangelical mold you can. Bad theology. Bad music. Amen

I will give you some points on the Jesus, me love you long time stuff.

God is a Friend of Mine drives me crazy.

 

[LutheranHawkeye]

Not all of it is like that. Some (albeit a few) are actually very good.

Have you ever listened to Lost and Found?
(Click the little speaker above my post for a sample.)

I actually liked the song a lot...weird. Really though I think it comes down to the definition of Christian music. I identify all music as Christian that's not blatantly anti-Christian, because music is a gift from God. Why make a genre that monopolizes Christian music? In that light all music is for the Glory of God. Country, Pop, Rock, Classical, and everything. I would call the song that I just listened to Pop, not CCM.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Keith Green ?

(some is free download)

 

[cerette]

Keith Green ?

(some is free download)

I actually like his music, but don't like all the lyrics. Have a CD which I listen to every now and then.

 

[WildStrawberry]

Lost and Found

www.speedwood.com

Darn it! Rev beat me to it.

PORTER! Lost and Found RULE like a big Ruling thingy. Yeah!

*G*

They're so much fun. Of course, sometimes a little goes a long way.

But, for theologically sound music, you really can't beat 'em!

Kae

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

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[Zecryphon]

Hello everyone!

As a conservative Lutheran I sometimes listen to contemporary Christian music, which isn't necessarely WELS or ELS. I happen to like the melody, the beat or whatever. I do not always agree with the lyrics, since they often say things like "accepting Jesus/sayng yes to Jesus" and so on...

My question is: Do you think it would be bad/wrong to play this music if I had friends over? I wouldn't want them to leave my house with the idea that they have to choose Jesus.

I think you've answered your own question, Cerette. If you don't want your friends to leave your house thinking that they have to choose Jesus, then don't play music that proclaims that message. Or you could post a disclaimer next to your stereo that says something along the lines of: "The music played in this house does not necessarily represent the theological beliefs of the owner of the house. It's really just background noise."

 

[Radiata]

Really scary worship.

I've been meaning to make a thread on this one for a while. We sing a song called "You Said" at InterVarsity Christian Fellowship (IVCF) and I can't seen to make anything out of it. It bothers me a lot.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1e3HksVfHRo

O yea, Rev, Lost and Found played at my church several years ago. It was the first musical concert that I ever went two. Besides my brother's piano recitals of course.

 

[cerette]

I think you've answered your own question, Cerette. If you don't want your friends to leave your house thinking that they have to choose Jesus, then don't play music that proclaims that message. Or you could post a disclaimer next to your stereo that says something along the lines of: "The music played in this house does not necessarily represent the theological beliefs of the owner of the house. It's really just background noise."

That's a good idea