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Property-Of-Jesus said:I was just wanted some opinions of, did the jews kill Jesus.
I always thought he gave up his spirit to God.
Wasn't there also some fact on the whole water seperated from blood that came from Jesus's spear wound?
Good day, POJProperty-Of-Jesus said:I was just wanted some opinions of, did the jews kill Jesus.
I always thought he gave up his spirit to God. There for the Jews did not kill him or cause the death. Wasn't there also some fact on the whole water seperated from blood that came from Jesus's spear wound?
I just wanted to help explain this to some friends, thx.
I agree. May I also add that he had legions of angels at his disposal. If he didn't willing go to the cross he never would have gotten thereBBAS 64 said:Good day, POJ
No one killed Jesus, he gave his life to be a ranson for many. He laid it down to forfill the work of the Father who sent Him.
Peace to u,
BBAS
The Pharisees handed Jesus over to the romans. But if you honestly think about it, no one person can be blamed. IT was your fault, my fault, Joe Schmoe's fault. He died so that anyone who comes to him will live. Lets stop trying to pin blame on one person, and thank God that he laid it down on his own accord, only to bring it back up again.Property-Of-Jesus said:I was just wanted some opinions of, did the jews kill Jesus.
I always thought he gave up his spirit to God. There for the Jews did not kill him or cause the death. Wasn't there also some fact on the whole water seperated from blood that came from Jesus's spear wound?
I just wanted to help explain this to some friends, thx.
Well said you beat me to it!flesh99 said:According to those scriptures, and lets leave aside the fact that we are ALL responsible for His death just for a moment, the Jews killed Christ. That is after all what they say. But wait, here is the kicker, we should be thanking them! If they had not killed Him then there would be no remission of sins through His blood! So feel free to sprew rhetoric about the Jews killing Jesus, I am glad they did. His death was necessary, and it was necessary at the hands of His own people. I am certainly glad they helped fulfill the prophecies.
Of course I am just as responsible as they are, my sin was covered, I may as well have driven the nails myself!
Greetings Nephilimiyr,nephilimiyr said:I believe everyone at the time had a hand in jesus's death and that includes jesus himself. I would characterize it more as the sacrifice of jesus, not the murder of him.
God killed Jesus. It was His plan from the beginning. He used some Jewish leaders, Romans and Judas to get the job done but would have found someone else to do the job if they had refused. And yes, Jesus surrendered His spirit to God (much sooner than most people died on the cross).Property-Of-Jesus said:I was just wanted some opinions of, did the jews kill Jesus.
I always thought he gave up his spirit to God. There for the Jews did not kill him or cause the death. Wasn't there also some fact on the whole water seperated from blood that came from Jesus's spear wound?
I just wanted to help explain this to some friends, thx.
I would just like to make it clear that the "we" in this is not necessarily Messianic Judaism. This statement is a mix of scriptural truth and an individual's theology.israelthebride said:We believe that YHSHWH is GOD (the HEAD of HIS BODY/TRUTH/LAW/MIND) + HOLY SPIRIT (the LIFE of HIS BODY) + MESSIAH (HIS BODY/the only WAY to HIM)
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YH'SHWH GOD killed YH'SHWH MESSIAH
when YH'SHWH GOD killed the animal (we believe a LAMB)
and took the LAMB'S INNOCENT SKIN
and covered the sin of the first man and woman.
Sin required death.
Death, of an INNOCENT, had been introduced, into HIS CREATION,
because of HIS LOVE for us.
YH'SHWH is the only ONE with INNOCENT BLOOD.
HE, as MESSIAH, had to come to REDEEM us from this death.
HE did. WE are SAVED. LOVE, RICOEL
Just so!! Correct you arenephilimiyr said:I believe everyone at the time had a hand in jesus's death and that includes jesus himself. I would characterize it more as the sacrifice of jesus, not the murder of him.
Property-Of-Jesus said:I was just wanted some opinions of, did the jews kill Jesus.
I always thought he gave up his spirit to God. There for the Jews did not kill him or cause the death. Wasn't there also some fact on the whole water seperated from blood that came from Jesus's spear wound?
I just wanted to help explain this to some friends, thx.
Essentially this says: "The Jews and their leaders, and the Gentiles and theri leaders....." That pretty much covers everyone........Acts 4:24 So when they heard that, they raised their voice to G-d with one accord and said: "L-rd, You are G-d, who made heaven and earth and the sea, and all that is in them, 25 who by the mouth of Your servant Davidhave said: 'Why did the nations rage, And the people plot vain things? 26 The kings of the earth took their stand, And the rulers were gathered together Against the L-rd and against His Messiah.' 27 "For truly against Your holy Servant Yeshua, whom You anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel, were gathered together 28 to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose determined before to be done.
Blessings Dad Ernie!Dad Ernie said:Greetings Nephilimiyr,
Did you read the scriptures I provided? Did you notice that both Peter and Paul laid the blame of Jesus death at the feet of the Jews? Did you notice that the Jews declared that His blood should be upon their heads and their children's heads? The penalty they paid for murdering Jesus occurred in 70 A.D. when Israel was destroyed and disbanded. It most certainly was murder, but what Satan intended for evil, God intended for the salvation of the world.
Blessings,
Dad Ernie
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