Multiple Layered Question About Hebrews 10:26-27 (eternal security)

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"If we deliberately go on sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire about to consume the adversaries." - Hebrews 10:26-27

A) IF conditional salvation is true wouldn't this passage state clearly it is not only from apostasy, but from continual sin?

B) IF conditional salvation is true wouldn't this passage state clearly that a person can't regain their salvation once lost?

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Too many mistakes. Putting "eternal security" in the title with a Scripture reference is an error of a claim being made without evidence.
"Conditional salvation" ? Likewise is , along with "eternal security",
man's term(s), not God's.
Finally, if /when/ there is NO SACRIFICE for sin, then there is only death to look forward to/to be in/ , as death is the penalty for sin.

Okay. Can you answer my two questions though
 
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The questions (I just re-read them) are mute.

Perhaps re-word them somehow ?
Based on Hebrews 10:26-27

1. Can a person lose their salvation by deeds done (and not simply apostasy)?

2. Once a person loses their salvation can they regain it?
 
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"If we deliberately go on sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire about to consume the adversaries." - Hebrews 10:26-27

A) IF conditional salvation is true wouldn't this passage state clearly it is not only from apostasy, but from continual sin?

B) IF conditional salvation is true wouldn't this passage state clearly that a person can't regain their salvation once lost?

Thanks.

That's right. Yes. During the Apostolic age a mortal sin could cause the loss of salvation, just as Hebrews 10:26-27 says. It was only around 200 AD that Calixtus I of Rome began absolving people of mortal sin committed after baptism. The big three were murder, adultery, and idolatry. Everything else was seen as lesser sin, barring something unique. It caused a minor schism in Rome between Hippolytus and Calixtus. Hippolytus opposed Calixtus, saying there was no forgiveness of mortal sin after baptism. They eventually reconciled and the Church adopted the practice of Calixtus. Mortal sin after baptism could be absolved by the Church but along with it came a hefty penance. Oftentimes penance lasted for seven or more years.

If you look at the Thirty Nine Articles of Religion of the Church of England you'll find an oddity. Article 6 spells out, for all practical purposes, sola scriptura, meaning scripture alone. As you've just pointed out, sola scriptura doesn't bode well for a lot of people. To get around that, the Church of England adopted the Church tradition of absolving mortal sin after baptism and named it in Article 16:

Not every deadly sin willingly committed after Baptism is sin against the Holy Ghost, and unpardonable.

You might as, "where would anyone get the idea that it is"? From Hebrews 10:29. So, sola scriptura, well, maybe. All but the parts we don't like.
 
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Hebrews is not talking about WE… unless you are a Jew…. to which the book of Hebrews was written.

Chapter 10:19-31.
The people of Israel, from the beginning of their history were told about Christ and some of what he was to accomplish….

The gospel (good news) had been proclaimed to them because of the new and better covenant that was ratified by Jesus Christ. They could have confidence in that …and approach the heavenly holy places with the true heart in certainty of belief.

Jesus Christ had accomplished all that was necessary for their redemption and salvation. …..However, if they would choose to willingly sin after receiving this knowledge of truth…. that is…. if they would refuse to believe the gospel regarding Christ, then they would suffer the consequences of their unbelief.
 
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"If we deliberately go on sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire about to consume the adversaries." - Hebrews 10:26-27

A) IF conditional salvation is true wouldn't this passage state clearly it is not only from apostasy, but from continual sin?

B) IF conditional salvation is true wouldn't this passage state clearly that a person can't regain their salvation once lost?

Thanks.
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There is conditional salvation and the only condition is to believe in Jesus. There are no conditions to receive God's free gift of Eternal life salvation tied to sin.

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"If we deliberately go on sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire about to consume the adversaries." - Hebrews 10:26-27

A) IF conditional salvation is true wouldn't this passage state clearly it is not only from apostasy, but from continual sin?

B) IF conditional salvation is true wouldn't this passage state clearly that a person can't regain their salvation once lost?

Thanks.
One can blaspheme the Holy Spirt .... which is continually ignoring what the Holy Spirit brings to our mind. If one continuously blasphemes the Holy Spirt ... at some point in time God will give them completely over to their sin. (God decides if and when that is). Blasphemy is the only unforgivable sin.
 
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