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It's actually both.

A ram is a male sheep or goat.
I double checked - you're right according to a second source I found. I've never heard ram used to describe a male goat.

In this country a male goat is a 'buck' or a 'billy'.

OB
 
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I double checked - you're right according to a second source I found. I've never heard ram used to describe a male goat.

In this country a male goat is a 'buck' or a 'billy'.

OB

I had to look it up too.

It surprised me big time.
 
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It's actually both.

A ram is a male sheep or goat.
Correct, that is true.

 
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I double checked - you're right according to a second source I found. I've never heard ram used to describe a male goat.

In this country a male goat is a 'buck' or a 'billy'.

OB
Ooh, things are different in Australia.
 
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Friedmann was born into the Russian Orthodox church. :)


Quote from Wikipedia: Friedmann was baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church as an infant, and lived much of his life in Saint Petersburg.
I hardly see how that is relevant.
But yes, most religions do have an origin story for the universe, I have to give you that. Seems that the 1920s was a turning point for astronomy. :) And yes, it is not the purpose for science to prop-up any religion, but it puts a smile on my face when science does support my faith. But hey, you do you, my friend.
 
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It is not relevant, but it goes to show how Christians can be astronomers and vice versa.
Also friends with those of other beliefs...
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Also friends with those of other beliefs...
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That is true. Lemaitre (Christian) was friends with Einstein, who was a Jew. :) Cool guys, these two scientists.
 
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Also friends with those of other beliefs...

You ... you mean one didn't put the other on IGNORE, then talk about his "intellectual dishonesty"?

:oldthumbsup:
 
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That is true. Lemaitre (Christian) was friends with Einstein, who was a Jew. :) Cool guys, these two scientists.

Einstein's equations can be found on chalkboards all over the Internet.

But he hid his religious beliefs so effectively, no one knows what he believed.

Typical academian.
 
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Einstein's equations can be found on chalkboards all over the Internet.

But he hid his religious beliefs so effectively, no one knows what he believed.

Typical academian.
Right now, I am trying to spread the Gospel to a Vietnamese computer programmer on Discord before I sign off, so I do not have time to discuss about science. But, I do like Einstein's equations.
 
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That is true, however, many scientists still think that the universe had a starting state, and there was nothing before it. About half of scientists believe in a higher power or God.
Perhaps, but Big Bang theory says nothing about that.

There are scientists who believe in a cyclical universe, where the universe expands and contracts, infinitely, but I do not believe in a cyclical universe myself: What would this cyclic model of the universe mean for the Big Bang?


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The statistics vary according to country and culture (and the particular study). For example, in a study of France, Hong Kong, India, Italy, Taiwan, Turkey, the United Kingdom, and the United States, they found that religious affiliation tends to be higher than levels of belief and practice.

"Nearly 10 percent of scientists in the US and UK—two countries at the core of the global science infrastructure—have “no doubt” that God exists, relative to one-quarter of scientists in India and two-thirds of scientists in Turkey. And a substantial proportion of scientists across these regional contexts pray and attend religious services regularly. Overall, a majority of scientists (more than half) in India, Italy, Taiwan, and Turkey identify as at least “slightly religious,” while such scientists are in the minority in France, Hong Kong, the US, and the UK." [Religion among Scientists in International Context]​

I recommend using the word 'belief' with caution when talking about scientists' scientific views. It might be more accurate to say that many scientists think a cyclical universe is the most likely or plausible hypothesis. However, there are also many other 'origin' hypotheses among cosmologists.
 
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Right now, I am trying to spread the Gospel to a Vietnamese computer programmer on Discord before I sign off, so I do not have time to discuss about science. But, I do like Einstein's equations.

:oldthumbsup:
 
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Perhaps, but Big Bang theory says nothing about that.


The statistics vary according to country and culture (and the particular study). For example, in a study of France, Hong Kong, India, Italy, Taiwan, Turkey, the United Kingdom, and the United States, they found that religious affiliation tends to be higher than levels of belief and practice.

"Nearly 10 percent of scientists in the US and UK—two countries at the core of the global science infrastructure—have “no doubt” that God exists, relative to one-quarter of scientists in India and two-thirds of scientists in Turkey. And a substantial proportion of scientists across these regional contexts pray and attend religious services regularly. Overall, a majority of scientists (more than half) in India, Italy, Taiwan, and Turkey identify as at least “slightly religious,” while such scientists are in the minority in France, Hong Kong, the US, and the UK." [Religion among Scientists in International Context]​

I recommend using the word 'belief' with caution when talking about scientists' scientific views. It might be more accurate to say that many scientists think a cyclical universe is the most likely or plausible hypothesis. However, there are also many other 'origin' hypotheses among cosmologists.
Interesting. (by the way, that is just my canned response for saying: you do you).
 
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I'd just like to go on record saying that the earliest we can see into the universes past right now (which right now currently is the JWST I think) we are still seeing stars and solar systems, and fully formed galaxies, etc. It's a bit hotter, and more dense (somewhat) but that's as far back as we can see that we have evidence for/of right now, etc.

I know, some are going to say "Well, how did it (the universe) get that way or start out that way (hotter and denser than normal) or how did it come into being without a "big bang" then, etc? And I'd just like to say that there are other possible alternatives, etc, and other possible explanations as to why it might have started out a little bit hotter, and more dense back then than normal, etc, and that there are other possibilities, etc. But if we are all going to be 100% honest "scientists" here, then we have to say that we do not yet have any proof that there was any "big bang" yet, but that it is only an assumption right now, etc. Now maybe one day we'll have and get more proof, but right now, we just don't have it yet, etc.

I don't think the universe is expanding any longer from that center where the big bang might have happened though, because we see no evidence of that, whereas maybe we should by now with what we can see/observe of the universe now, etc. If there was a big bang, then it (the universe) stopped expanding from that center almost immediately right after it supposedly happened, etc, and the only quote/unquote "expansion" that is happening now, is in equal uniformity equally everywhere, with nowhere as the center of it, etc.

Still could have been a big bang maybe, but it is also still right now (until we have more evidence) just as equally possible I think that maybe there was not one right now maybe (at least, not until we are able to get or gather more evidence), etc. And I'm guessing that that's why it's still called a "theory" right now, etc. But let's not all make the mistake of thinking that the big bang theory is on par with say, the theory of evolution right now, ok. Because it's just "not" yet, etc, ok.

God Bless.
 
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