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Multiple baptisms
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I understand what you are saying...
however, I am confused as to which time my baptism was true, valid
make sense?
however, I am confused as to which time my baptism was true, valid
make sense?
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OK, SO what is the difference between being baptized in the name of Jesus as opposed to being baptized in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit?
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Iron Man
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I'm sure someone will have greater expertise than I on this one 
. I think that practice comes from Peter's statement in Acts 2:38, while the Trinitarian formula is found in the Great Commission.
In my experience (which is quite limited), baptism in the name of Jesus is practiced primarily in certain Pentecostal circles - sometimes by people who don't confess the Trinity (Oneness Pentecostals). I'm not sure who else does this. I feel like I've heard of it elsewhere...maybe somebody else can chime in! I think that the traditional Trinitarian formula for baptism is considered valid even if performed by people who are perhaps heterodox, because the proper words were used. People who were baptized in the name of Jesus are typically baptized (they don't like to say rebaptized) immediately before Confirmation.
It's one of those touchy subjects, so I'm trying to tread lightly
. I think that practice comes from Peter's statement in Acts 2:38, while the Trinitarian formula is found in the Great Commission.In my experience (which is quite limited), baptism in the name of Jesus is practiced primarily in certain Pentecostal circles - sometimes by people who don't confess the Trinity (Oneness Pentecostals). I'm not sure who else does this. I feel like I've heard of it elsewhere...maybe somebody else can chime in! I think that the traditional Trinitarian formula for baptism is considered valid even if performed by people who are perhaps heterodox, because the proper words were used. People who were baptized in the name of Jesus are typically baptized (they don't like to say rebaptized) immediately before Confirmation.
It's one of those touchy subjects, so I'm trying to tread lightly
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Baptism in the Trinitarian formula and not just in the name of Christ is true to historical Christianity and is well-documented in sources like the Didache and the Early Fathers. A valid baptism can be by immersion or sprinkling according to the Didache but the Trinitarian formula is paramount.
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Indeed. An invalid baptism isnt a baptism. But it doesn't take much for a baptism to be valid. If there are concerns your bishop is the best person to ask.
If necessary a conditional baptism can be done: "if you are not already baptized I baptize you in the name of the father, and of the son, ..."
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My Baptist pastor friends strongly disagree with me
I have far too many of these myself to get a decent night's sleep nowadays
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I'm quite certain my baptism was 'in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.'--just like Saint Peter stated in Acts 2:38. I have always believed in the Triune God.
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Does it matter - really.
I know the ecclesiastical bureaucracy like to keep a tab on things and there are those who advocate the elevated importance of both baptism and the eucharist but I can't help feeling we have gone overboard on this somewhat.
I have been baptized twice - once in a pentecostal church and that was something I had wanted to do personally for all the biblical reasons. The other time was in the Anglican tradition but more to satisfy some piece of ecclesiastical administration.
So which one, if only one baptism is sufficient, was the 'right' one? For me it was my first experience. The second was more important for the Church - not me.
I know the ecclesiastical bureaucracy like to keep a tab on things and there are those who advocate the elevated importance of both baptism and the eucharist but I can't help feeling we have gone overboard on this somewhat.
I have been baptized twice - once in a pentecostal church and that was something I had wanted to do personally for all the biblical reasons. The other time was in the Anglican tradition but more to satisfy some piece of ecclesiastical administration.
So which one, if only one baptism is sufficient, was the 'right' one? For me it was my first experience. The second was more important for the Church - not me.
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So did all of the converts on the day of Penticost have invalid baptisms? Is the scriptural text inaccurate or compromised? Jesus said one thing... Peter said what is perceived to be 'different' and it was ok...
I did read the Didache..and it does mention Father, Son, Holy Spirit form..it also speaks of the one being baptized having to fast prior to baptism...
does everyone do that too?
I did read the Didache..and it does mention Father, Son, Holy Spirit form..it also speaks of the one being baptized having to fast prior to baptism...
does everyone do that too?
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ServantJohn
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Yea, I noticed that about fasting also. I had never heard that. I have actually been baptised three times and have struggled with it.
Oh yea, thanks to whoever first brought up the Didache. Read a bit of it a few minutes ago and it's awesome!!!
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My dad said I was dedicated as a baby, not baptised. My mother and grandmother said I was christened as a child. I became a christian (you can argue this one out in another thread if you like) in my twenties after a traumatic conversion. When I met the girl who is now my wife I was baptised as a Catholic shortly before we married. Several years and several moves later I attended an independant church who insisted that true baptism was only by full immersion, myself and my wife were baptised by full immersion.
I have long since got over the "which was the real baptism?" and "how many times have I been baptised?" All I know is, I attend church regularly, and do everything in my power to follow the way of Jesus as I read in my Bible.
Without wishing to hijack this thread or step on anyones theological toes; I consider the differing theologies of various churches to be a stumbling block to many honest seekers, and a major contributor to my nervous breakdown.
I have long since got over the "which was the real baptism?" and "how many times have I been baptised?" All I know is, I attend church regularly, and do everything in my power to follow the way of Jesus as I read in my Bible.
Without wishing to hijack this thread or step on anyones theological toes; I consider the differing theologies of various churches to be a stumbling block to many honest seekers, and a major contributor to my nervous breakdown.
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