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Here is another thread concerning abortion. I'm not sure if this has been covered yet. Since abortions are legal, is it okay for the woman to have as many as she desires? Is there a limit on how many a woman can have? To me, having one abortion to get rid of an unwanted or unintended pregnancy, while very sad, is a legitimate right. But if the women has more than one, isn't she just being irresponsible? Instead of practicing safe sex and insuring that she does not get pregnant, she would assume that she can abort the unwanted child as many times as she likes? If I am wrong on this, please let me know.
 

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We first must recognize that subsequent abortions are a rarity. Second, there is not (to my knowledge) a limit as to how many abortions a woman may obtain in her lifetime. Lastly, I don't believe that there should be. If a woman wants to do that to her body time and time again and take the risk, to me it's no different than a woman who knows she is prone to repeat miscarriage and continues to get pregnant and have miscarriage after miscarriage. Both have serious reprocussions, but it's still her body to ruin if she chooses. It isn't the procedure itself that is unsafe. It is the rapid fluxuation of hormones.
 
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KatAutumn said:
but it's still her body to ruin if she chooses.

But it isn't her body. In order for something to be apart of the woman's body it has to have EXACT DNA, but the fetus has different DNA than the woman. It's not just a part of her body.

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If you don't think abortion is murder then it really makes no difference how many a woman has in her lifetime. It's not an easy procedure and not without complications so few women will be doing over and over (although I remember reading something about multiple abortions being common in countries where reliable BC isn't available but I won't swear to that).

If you do think abortion is murder then even one is one too many.
 
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qpmomma said:
But it isn't her body. In order for something to be apart of the woman's body it has to have EXACT DNA, but the fetus has different DNA than the woman. It's not just a part of her body.
DNA content is not a useful indicator of what is or is not part or one's body. Look up 'genetic mosaic' for one reason why.
 
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I do think it's important to realize that birth control seems to be less effective for some women than for others. I had been have sex for eight years before I tried to get pregnant, and I used every birth control method you can imagine, and they all worked for me. I got pregnant 3 months after I started trying, after 8 years of never having an unwanted pregnancy.

On the other hand, I know women who have gotten pregnant multiple times on the pill.

I do think that it is irresponsible to use abortion as a method of birth control. While I don't believe an abortion is an act that should be illegal, clearly having an abortion is more morally questionable than using birth control, and so birth control should always be used if you are having sex and don't want to get pregnant. But, I imagine that women who have multiple abortions would probably be more likely than other women to seek out illegal abortions if either abortion were illegal or if they were legally barred from getting a certain number of abortions, and putting their lives at risk would be more immoral than giving them legal access to as many safe, legal abortions as they want to have, even if we don't agree with their choice.

I guess it's like divorce/remarriage. Obviously, after someone's fourth divorce, we might begin to think that maybe they shouldn't get married again, and maybe that doing so would be immoral. But, that doesn't mean they shouldn't be legally allowed to marry again if they so choose.
 
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Byootaful said:
Before my friend was in year 12, she had had 3 abortions.

I was shocked, especially when she said that she saw it as another type of birth control. If it had progressed through the condom, the Pill, etc, this was simply a more large-scale birth control.

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Dare I ask how old her partners were? Her age alone should have thrown up a red flag, especially with the clinic doctors. No way should anyone under the age of 16 be getting mulitiple abortions.
 
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christianmarine said:
Dare I ask how old her partners were? Her age alone should have thrown up a red flag, especially with the clinic doctors. No way should anyone under the age of 16 be getting mulitiple abortions.

I don't know much about her partners. I know that one of the abortions was due to rape, but the other two were just unwanted pregnancies. Two of her partners were in their 20s, and one was nearly 20, I believe.

She wasn't my friend as such, but I went to the same school as her and got put in a dorm with her on retreat, so I found out a bit about her.
 
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christianmarine said:
Here is another thread concerning abortion. I'm not sure if this has been covered yet. Since abortions are legal, is it okay for the woman to have as many as she desires? Is there a limit on how many a woman can have? To me, having one abortion to get rid of an unwanted or unintended pregnancy, while very sad, is a legitimate right. But if the women has more than one, isn't she just being irresponsible? Instead of practicing safe sex and insuring that she does not get pregnant, she would assume that she can abort the unwanted child as many times as she likes? If I am wrong on this, please let me know.
Currently there is no legal limit to the ammount of procedures you can have done.

Morally, if its for the right reasons, any number is permissible. If a woman is using abortion as birth control, THAT is wrong. Technically...since a fetus isnt really a human being yet, its in the beginning stages of becomming a human, its the same as removing a cancer from a person's body.

But morally I think its wrong to use abortion as birth control.
 
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TeddyKGB said:
DNA content is not a useful indicator of what is or is not part or one's body. Look up 'genetic mosaic' for one reason why.

That's not really applicable here. Genetic mosaic usually involve slight changes, a fetus has 50% different DNA than the parent.

It is the genome of an entirely different person.
 
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Helo said:
Morally, if its for the right reasons, any number is permissible. If a woman is using abortion as birth control, THAT is wrong. Technically...since a fetus isnt really a human being yet, its in the beginning stages of becomming a human, its the same as removing a cancer from a person's body.

But morally I think its wrong to use abortion as birth control.

What reason besides birth control would a woman utilize more than one abortion? Also, how is comparing an unborn child to cancer relevant? Essentially what your saying is that the fetus is a disease.
 
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What reason besides birth control would a woman utilize more than one abortion?
Sometimes women can have certain genes that produce birth defects or other problems that arent immedieately identifiable with the first baby. I will be the first to admit that thats probably pretty rare, but untill it NEVER EVER happens, I dont think we should have a cap on abortion. Also, victims of multiple rapes can have multiple abortions, again, its rare but if it happens at all it should still be there

Also, how is comparing an unborn child to cancer relevant? Essentially what your saying is that the fetus is a disease.
Cancer is a lump of cells that replicates and grows out of control using the person's body for fuel. A fetus is a lump of cells that draws food and energy from the mother. Tumors cant survive without something to feed off of, a fetus is the same, it cannot survive without the mother.
 
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Helo said:
Sometimes women can have certain genes that produce birth defects or other problems that arent immedieately identifiable with the first baby. I will be the first to admit that thats probably pretty rare, but untill it NEVER EVER happens, I dont think we should have a cap on abortion. Also, victims of multiple rapes can have multiple abortions, again, its rare but if it happens at all it should still be there
As the mother of a special needs child, I take offense to your comments. It appears that you are suggesting that all babies with birth defects should be aborted. My son would tell you that you are wrong, and so do I.


Helo said:
Cancer is a lump of cells that replicates and grows out of control using the person's body for fuel. A fetus is a lump of cells that draws food and energy from the mother. Tumors cant survive without something to feed off of, a fetus is the same, it cannot survive without the mother.
Cancer doesn't come out of the mother some months later, and learn to walk, talk, use a toilet, and share love with those it is closest to, either. So your comparison is irrelevant.
 
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stray bullet said:
That's not really applicable here. Genetic mosaic usually involve slight changes, a fetus has 50% different DNA than the parent.

It is the genome of an entirely different person.
Actually, I was thinking of chimerism when I wrote that, although human chimeras are exeedingly rare.
 
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Wish I had the particular stats, but it is not an uncommon occurence for some women to have multiple abortions. Even some pro-choicers don't think it's 'morally' right. I've also wondered why that has never been brought up....the limits on the amts of abortion one woman receives.....
 
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