much of obamacare written by republicans

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i stated in another thread that much of obamacare was written by republicans. of course, there are some who who will never be able to admit as much. the following quotes/links provide irrefutable proof that my statement is correct.

this story begins back in the nixon administration. for brevity's sake i am not going to recount the entire tale in this thread. feel free to google it and/or you can read about it here.

lets jump ahead a couple of decades to the early 1990's, when republican senator john chaffee, along with 17 republican and 3 democrat senate co-sponsors, presented the health equity and access reform today act of 1993. among the many similarities to obamacare included in this bill were:

1. the individual mandate - (this was actually a heritage foundation (a conservative thinktank) idea. Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich both supported the individual mandate and romney included it in his own massachusetts legislation.

mitt romney said:
we got the idea of an individual mandate…from [Newt Gingrich], and [Newt] got it from the Heritage Foundation.

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2. creation of purchasing pools
3. standardized benefits
4. vouchers for the poor
5. a ban on denying coverage for pre-existing conditions

now, granted there are of course going to be differences in obamacare. nobody denies this, but as stated, much of obamacare was written by republicans. how much of it, you ask? well, a study conducted in 2013 tracking previous legislation written and presented by republicans in both the senate and house found a whopping %38.5 of it!

there are resources on for you all to peruse online that detail the many ways republicans contributed to obamacare. there have been multiple measures put forth by both democrats and republicans over the last couple decades. much of obamacare borrowed this legislation as an attempt to provide concessions to republicans.

obama, very early in his first term, and wanting to avoid mistakes made with earlier attempts to pass healthcare reform during the clinton years, sought a bipartisan group to find a solution.

But with Obama’s blessing... Chairman Max Baucus...working especially closely with Grassley, his dear friend and Republican counterpart, who had been deeply involved in crafting the Republican alternative to Clintoncare. Baucus and Grassley convened an informal group of three Democrats and three Republicans on the committee, which became known as the “Gang of Six.” They covered the parties’ ideological bases; the other GOPers were conservative Mike Enzi of Wyoming and moderate Olympia Snowe of Maine, and the Democrats were liberal Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico and moderate Kent Conrad of North Dakota.

Baucus very deliberately started the talks with a template that was the core of the 1993-4 Republican plan, built around an individual mandate and exchanges with private insurers—much to the chagrin of many Democrats and liberals who wanted, if not a single-payer system, at least one with a public insurance option. Through the summer, the Gang of Six engaged in detailed discussions and negotiations to turn a template into a plan.

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mcconnell though, had other plans. he and cantor had devised a plan to become obstructionists, preventing obama from getting anything done. (i will be starting another separate thread on this.) he began threatening the three republicans futures in the senate. mcconnell couldn't take the risk of the american people thinking it was in any way a bipartisan bill. he was quoted as saying.

It was absolutely critical that everybody be together because if the proponents of the bill were able to say it was bipartisan, it tended to convey to the public that this is O.K., they must have figured it out.

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here is a chart comparing health care reform bills as proposed by the republicans in 1993 and the democrats in 2009

republicans wrote %38.5 of obamacare
 
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This claim is a deception. Citing similarities to earlier proposals/laws does not mean that Republicans actually authored any part of the current law. Nor did any Republicans vote for the current law. Democrats own "Obamacare" 100%.
 
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Even if the numbers are 100% accurate, that means over 61% was nothing that the Republicans could be blamed for. The devil is always in the details, anyway.

"The man’s name who wrote a great deal of the scourge that we call Obamacare, is convicted felon, Robert Creamer."
The Shocking Truth About Who Wrote Obamacare
 
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This claim is a deception. Citing similarities to earlier proposals/laws does not mean that Republicans actually authored any part of the current law.

we're speaking of specific policies...the individual mandate for instance. these are/were republican ideas included at the insistence of republicans. and the fact they didn't sign it is irrelevant here as we know why they didn't. their political futures were threatened and/or they wanted do do nothing but obstruct obama.


hey, a link, posted by itself with no comment...great.
yes, you will probably find portions of hillarycare in there as well...as stated previously, its a conglomeration of ideas including conservative/republican.
 
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More deception.

Republicans did not write or vote for Obamacare.

You can write a term paper filled with quotes by Gandhi, but that doesn't mean that Gandhi wrote part of your paper. And when the teacher fails your paper you can't claim that Gandhi shares your failure.
 
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we're speaking of specific policies...the individual mandate for instance. these are/were republican ideas included at the insistence of republicans.

Liberal Republicans advocating state healthcare programs in Democrat or Liberal states. And states are a different animal than the federal government, with different rules and fewer Constitutional limits on their powers.
 
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I thought it spoke for itself by Hillary claiming it's hers...
Well to be the devil's advocate, even leftists and Democrats understand well enough that anything and everything that HRC says is only randomly related to what is true.

To refute your link, this is what leftists and Democrats would first have to admit to.
 
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You can write a term paper filled with quotes by Gandhi,

except they weren't quoting anyone except themselves...unless you're talking about where romney got it from gingrich who got it from the heritage foundation...here it is again..

we got the idea of an individual mandate…from [Newt Gingrich], and [Newt] got it from the Heritage Foundation.

Liberal Republicans advocating state healthcare programs in Democrat or Liberal states.

ah, now they're LIBERAL REPUBLICANS, lol...and no, with the exception of romney's plan, the others were national.
 
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ah, now they're LIBERAL REPUBLICANS, lol...and no, with the exception of romney's plan, the others were national.

NOW? Does that surprise you? They always have been liberal in the NE states. Romney may as well have been the me too candidate for President. Whatever Obama wanted, he wanted it too.
 
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