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thereselittleflower

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Symes said:
The main problem with bthe movie is that it is not teaching the truth about the events as they took place according to the Bible.
What did the movie teach as truth that was not in the bible?

Mary gets to play a role that is not Biblical. Mary is a sinner like us all and needs a Saviour. She is not a co-redeemer.
How does the movie show Mary is co-redeemer?


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Symes said:
The main problem with bthe movie is that it is not teaching the truth about the events as they took place according to the Bible.

Mary gets to play a role that is not Biblical. Mary is a sinner like us all and needs a Saviour. She is not a co-redeemer.

So was she supposed to just stand by and jump for joy that Jesus was dyeing and being beaten to death? Or maybe since she was such a sinner she should have been out sinning instead of standing by Jesus’ side?

How should have Mel portrayed her , IYO? What would have been acceptable to you?

She watched her son die, she did not try to stop Jesus, she shed many tears watching him suffer, is this wrong IYO?
 
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Mary according to the gospels did not kiss the feet of Jesus. In the movie she does. It appears that Jesus gains His power and strength from Mary, He was given power from God, not a human being who was a sinner.

We doo not believe Mary gives Him power? Why do you believe things that just aren’t true about us?

A) She was saying goodbye.

B) She was honoring His wounds.

C) Jesus was human after all as well as God, would you not gain courage and strength from your own mother supporting you at a time like that?

and D) This is a Catholic devotion, a style of spirituality that Catholics practice to show our love and devotion for what Christ did, to honor him. On Good Friday we all enter the Church at some point, preferable at 3:00 pm at kiss the feet of Christ on the crucifix. It just a devotion, something we do that shows our love for Christ and to show that we are remembering Him, thinking of Him.

Why do you think these types of things must be biblical? We do not feel our salvation comes from doing them, it is just a act, a show of love. Do you show the people in your life that you love them by doing things like that?

Besides, where does the bible say that every last thing you do, think, and feel about Christ’s passion must come from the bible?
 
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Also Symes, It was conveyed that Mary, John and Mary Magdalene was really the only three who knew what was going on, why Jesus was up there dying for the world. You see them in the movie as each thing happens to our Lord look back at his life and realize what it all meant what it all was for. It was paramount to the movie in the respect, through them it told the viewers the story of what Christ was doing up there. It was a movie, it was telling a story through a means. The story itself was not told inaccurate, it was beautiful.

My favorite flashback was Mary Magdalene, as she clean Jesus’ blood up off the floor, realizing He was being condemned, she remembered Her being condemned and Jesus saving her. What a powerful image for us all. He was condemned so we won’t be.
 
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Symes, if you took all of that from this movie then it is clear that you have an issue with Mary to begin with.

I must remind you that this "sinner" you speak so harshly of was the mother of our Lord Jesus! God chose HER out of every other woman alive to carry His son!

If I am offended by watching people dishonor her I can only imagine how He must feel!

The movie portrayed nothing more than a grieving mother, yet your apparent Mary hang up has led you to see it as something entirely different. I suggest you pray about this. I suggest you tell Jesus how sorry you are for thinking ill of His mother.

It seems you are also sorely mistaken about what Catholics consider Mary. We honor her, and rightly so, she is the mother of Jesus! We believe that when Jesus gave her to John from the cross, He also gave her to us. She is our mother. Do we think that she comes before Jesus? NO, we adore Him first, above anyone else...

You should try asking her to pray for you sometime.
 
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Honestly, I think we should just not talk to Symes about it anymore-it is going nowhere. He makes baseless claims about a movie he's never seen, and refuses to listen to anything any of us who have seen it says about.

It's obvious that he wants to think it's not a Godly movie, and will continue to think this despite any thing we say. If he really wanted to know if the movie is Godly, he'd go see it.
 
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Slave2SinNoMore said:
Honestly, I think we should just not talk to Symes about it anymore-it is going nowhere. He makes baseless claims about a movie he's never seen, and refuses to listen to anything any of us who have seen it says about.

It's obvious that he wants to think it's not a Godly movie, and will continue to think this despite any thing we say. If he really wanted to know if the movie is Godly, he'd go see it.


agreed....
 
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Symes said:
Mary according to the gospels did not kiss the feet of Jesus. In the movie she does. It appears that Jesus gains His power and strength from Mary, He was given power from God, not a human being who was a sinner.
Symes

this really gets sillier and sillier . . becaue of a kiss of compassion, now Jesus is drawing strength from Mary instead of God?

Symes, where are you getting this information from? What kind of perverted reveiw of this movie are you reading?


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thereselittleflower said:
Symes

this really gets sillier and sillier . . becaue of a kiss of compassion, now Jesus is drawing strength from Mary instead of God?

Symes, where are you getting this information from? What kind of perverted reveiw of this movie are you reading?


Peace in Him!


Yes...

Oh I better hurry up and go kiss my kids, I think they are running low on strength!
 
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Slave2SinNoMore said:
Honestly, I think we should just not talk to Symes about it anymore-it is going nowhere. He makes baseless claims about a movie he's never seen, and refuses to listen to anything any of us who have seen it says about.

It's obvious that he wants to think it's not a Godly movie, and will continue to think this despite any thing we say. If he really wanted to know if the movie is Godly, he'd go see it.
Your right . . one hopes that somehow they can get through to a mind so locked in a prison away from the light of day . .but if they want to stay locked n that prison of theiir own free will dispite every attempt by others to free them, then there is not much any one can do to help . . .


Peace in Him!
 
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