[MOVED] What happens when a non-NASA astronaut is asked about the shape of the earth?

[Jonathan Walkerin]

How does 1000 of others trump God the creator. Who states in the Bible about His creation, noting that agrees with science or astronauts

Wanna bet they said the same about Galileo and his telescope ?

It is just hard to ignore reality after certain point after which you are going to sound deranged and whatever religion you are promoting starts to get bit of stink as well.

 

[d taylor]

Wanna bet they said the same about Galileo and his telescope ?

It is just hard to ignore reality after certain point after which you are going to sound deranged and whatever religion you are promoting starts to get bit of stink as well.

I do not promote religion, it is as full of lies as science.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

I do not promote religion, it is as full of lies as science.

But you are still taking your world view from the Bible which you advocate here , you talk about God the creator and you post in christian forums while being self labeled as protestant ?

Peculiar.

 

[Freodin]

But you are still taking your world view from the Bible which you advocate here , you talk about God the creator and you post in christian forums while being selfl abeled as protestant ?

Peculiar.

There are those who consider "religion" to be something negative, something "man-made", something invented, something false.
Their own views are usually called something along the lines of "following God's word" or "having a relationship with Jesus".

It's all just a naming convention, used to distance themselves from "the others", who are wrong, while they themselves hold to most of the same ideas, but are right.

 

[d taylor]

But you are still taking your world view from the Bible which you advocate here , you talk about God the creator and you post in christian forums while being self labeled as protestant ?

Peculiar.

Well i would have used gentile since there is only Jews and gentiles. But there is no gentile choice, or at least i did not see it at the time.

My view is in context i take the Bible as given in scripture. The Bible states Joshua commanded the sun and moon to stop moving in the sky. So i believe that as given in the Bible, and do not adjust those verses to make the Bible agree with science.

If you want to rearrange the Bible to agree with science feel free, i will not have to be the one to give an account to God for making His given word support the lies of science.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

If you want to rearrange the Bible to agree with science feel free, i will not have to be the one to give an account to God for making His given word support the lies of science.

So if we stay with Galileo example - your faith tells you that Sun has to orbit Earth but your eyes can see that in actuality Earth orbits the Sun you deny your vision and return to your faith ?

And you believe that is why God gave us brains for ?

 

[d taylor]

So if we stay with Galileo example - your faith tells you that Sun has to orbit Earth but your eyes can see that in actuality Earth orbits the Sun you deny your vision and return to your faith ?

And you believe that is why God gave us brains for ?

Tell me when you have seen the earth orbit the sun.

I see everyday (when it is not cloudy) the sun (and moon and stars) moving over the earth just as stated in the Bible.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

I see everyday (when it is not cloudy) the sun (and moon and stars) moving over the earth just as stated in the Bible.

If you define your world with only what you can see you live in a small (flat) planet indeed.....

 

[d taylor]

If you define your world with only what you can see you live in a small (flat) planet indeed.....

If christians put their trust in man over the Bible, they will be open for many deceptions.

I know i am small and must rely on God and His written scripture for guidance in this age, to weed through the lies that are around every corner.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Please give the chapter and verse that says the earth is flat.

Just found excerpts on 'classified' electronic retrieval device (g**gle):
"Globe Earth Believer's Ten Commandments 1) Thou shalt not worship any other God than NASA 2) Thou shalt not question the theory of gravity 3) Make it..."
"The Bible is, from Genesis to Revelation, a flat-earth book. ... Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm . .... Every eye shall see him. ..... This is the first commandment of the luminaries: The sun is a luminary whose egress is an ..."

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I'd really love for you to give the name of that ONE PERSON... because I have that weird notion that you are quite wrong in that.

The Messiah

(an eye-witness!)

 

[A Realist]

Did it never occur to any of you "Hurray, we now have proof the Erf is flet!" people that this might be an example of Poe's Law in action?

600 Poes in one room!
The flat-Earth conspiracy is spreading around the globe. Does it hide a darker core? - CNN

 

[Freodin]

The Messiah

(an eye-witness!)

Ah, this ONE PERSON.

So then, you wouldn't mind to point out where he showed "perfectly , mathematically,

that the earth is round ball shape"?

 

[Strathos]

Just found excerpts on 'classified' electronic retrieval device (g**gle):
"Globe Earth Believer's Ten Commandments 1) Thou shalt not worship any other God than NASA 2) Thou shalt not question the theory of gravity 3) Make it..."
"The Bible is, from Genesis to Revelation, a flat-earth book. ... Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm . .... Every eye shall see him. ..... This is the first commandment of the luminaries: The sun is a luminary whose egress is an ..."

And again, none of those verses saying anything about it being flat. Try again.

 

[durangodawood]

And again, none of those verses saying anything about it being flat. Try again.

Matthew 4:8 "Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor".

Thats impossible on a globe.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Thanks for finding that. Here's a machine translation of the youtube description:

"
TV Kwidzyn. Local TV channel available on the VECTRA S.A. network
1.61K subscribers
There were no such crowds in the KCK auditorium on November 11, if so many people were there at all. There were so many willing to enter the meeting with General Mirosław Hermaszewski that not everyone fit inside and a large group of people had to be content with what was heard in the corridor.


More about the meeting of General Hermaszewski with the inhabitants of Kwidzyn on the website: http: //www.tv-kwidzyn.pl/ consciousosci/2 ...
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Let's see if we can validate what he said and meant. Of course no one data point is proof. Science collects evidence, first, before deciding. Right now let's find out what this astronaut thinks about space if we can.

Website with info about the interview and meeting:

Kosmonauta w Kwidzynie. Spotkanie z generałem Mirosławem Hermaszewskim.

"Shortly before meeting the residents, he agreed to give us a short interview."

I hope a Polish speaker can help put this, the general's words, and the sign about the meeting into context for us.

Someone edited wiki to discuss this on Nov 16, 2019, but didn't have a source so it was promptly deleted. How much truth there is in this statement is the original point of this thread. Unfortunately resistance was futile, and the thread got assimilated by the "No, it's a disc" "No, it's a sphere" recursion.

"General Miroslaw Hermaszewski in interview that took place on 23rd November 2018 in town of Kwidzyn (Poland) assured journalist that shape of the earth is flat. This information not only made him first Polish astronaut in space but first astronaut to have other worldview than heliocentric."

Google translate gives a reasonable translation of the text; the only relevant piece is this:

"After the murderous training in Star City, he was delivered to orbit by the Soyuz 30 ship launched from the Baikonur spaceport in Kazakhstan. There, on board the orbital station Salut 6 - Soyuz 29 for a week, together with Piotr Klimuk and other two astronauts from the then USSR, he conducted scientific experiments in many fields." ​

 

[d taylor]

If you define your world with only what you can see you live in a small (flat) planet indeed.....

You might be interested in this from a fellow catholic. He is not a flat earth believer, but a geocentric catholic. He states the earth is not moving and has never been proven to be moving.

I am not a geocentric believer but thought you might be interested since he is a fellow catholic.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

And again, none of those verses saying anything about it being flat. Try again.

???
try what again ???

 

[d taylor]

Not buying it. Got something less ambiguous?

Whether you by it or not does not matter, the verse is there and states what it does.

People everyday reject the gift of eternal life from God, still does not change the fact that, that is a true offer from a God that does exist.

 

[Strathos]

Matthew 4:8 "Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor".

Thats impossible on a globe.

It's also impossible according to flat earthers, who claim there is some magic barrier that prevents anyone from seeing more than a few hundred km. So this is a dead-end argument. Otherwise you'd be able to see everywhere on earth from the top of Mount Everest.

Perhaps it was a spiritual vision?

???
try what again ???

Try again to find a convincing Bible passage that says the earth is flat.

Whether you by it or not does not matter, the verse is there and states what it does.

People everyday reject the gift of eternal life from God, still does not change the fact that, that is a true offer from a God that does exist.

It doesn't say what you claim it does. Why should anyone accept your peculiar exegesis over anyone else's?