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Morrissey appreciation thread

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Hi,

Do we have any fans of Morrissey on here? He's been one of my heroes for ages because he despises cigarettes, drugs, homophobes, and many top 40 artists as well as being celibate (though he's had a few romantic relationships).

I wasn't a Smiths fan in the 80's myself, but I first got into him when I bought the single "Interesting Drug" which was written around the time when ecstacy was the 'in' thing. I bought virtually all his records until 1997 when he got sued by his bandmates over unpaid royalties and nothing much was heard again till this year when he signed with an old 70's reggae label.

Some of his songs make me cry because they say a lot about me like 'Will Never Marry', 'I Started Something I Couldn't Finish', 'Yes, I Am Blind' and 'I Have Forgiven Jesus'.

He cracks me up with some of the missives he's given to the press over the years - it's short of a miracle that he's never been beaten up or sent to prison because of them such as:

"Ronald Reagan is dead. I wish that George W. Bush had died instead!" (at a gig he played the day after Regan died).

"Reggae is the most racist music around. It is a celebration of black supremacy."

"Obviously to get onto Top of the Pops these days, one has to be by law black. There has been something political happening to have a hefty pushing of black artists and all this discofied nonsense into the Top 40."

"The reason why the British National Party are so violent is because they are gagged. If they were allowed more political freedom of speech, we would be seeing far less blacks and Asians being beaten up."

"If Prince came from Wigan, he would have been slaughtered by now."

"Sigmund Freud made a lot of people feel so neurotic about their lives. If you were to dream of a lampshade it probably meant that you had fantasies of being whipped by the local vicar or something like that."

"The Catholic church has NOTHING in common with Christianity. I remember going to school on Mondays and being asked if I went to church the previous day. If you hadn't then you had the limbs twisted off you. It was 'We'll sever your head for your own good. You'll learn my son!' "

"Madonna reinforces everything both absurd and offensive. Desparate womanhood. She is closer to organised prostitution than anything else."

"I hate all the records in the Top 40 like Janet Jackson and Whitney Houston. They are vile in the extreme."

"A drunken goat could direct a Duran Duran video."

"If God exists, then Johnny Rogan would have been devoured by an alsation."

"I can't understand the fuss about the Smiths signing to EMI. The idea that it's like getting into bed with Hitler is ridiculous."

"I went out for the first time in ages, and somebody came up to me and said 'Do that funny dance you do'. I felt completely repellant as if I was a stand-up comedian or some character from a sit-com with a wooly hat and tickling stick (referring to British comedian Ken Dodd). It's times like this when things get totally out of hand."

"When I was a child it was a mortal sin to be caught indoors. If a child is out playing on his own, it's as if he has gone delerious. These days you can drive through the parks and playgrounds and there's not a kid in sight. They're all glued to their video games and TV sets. As a result, today's kids are all monotonous creatures."

"I do believe it is possible to go through life and not fall in love or find someone who really loves you."

"I believe my genitals were the result of a crude practical joke."

"I will not do the kind of things you are meant to do when you are famous."

"The tabloids hound me and it gets really sticky at times. They're lying there waiting for the cloak to drop and to see me with my friends at the Playboy Club. They're trying to unravel me."

"Violence towards animals is directly linked to war. It may sound absurd at first, but when you think about it the implications are there. When there is a lack of compassion where any life is concerned, there will always be war."

"If I was Liz Hurley and Hugh Grant hadn't done anything, I wouldn't have stuck by him." (after Hugh Grant was arrested for having sex with prostitute Divine Brown).

"The reason why I object to music videos is that everyone in them look so silly. They have the opposite effect on me that they are meant to. When I see a bad video, I think 'oh no why did they do that? Now I defintely WON'T buy the record."

"I find pop senility totally appalling to watch. I don't like the idea of going on stage with a transplant, shoes on the wrong feet, hurling the carcass across the studio floor and reaching for the bath chair as I put down the vocals."

"My ultimate fantasy would be to see Cher and Pete Burns swap passoports and the airport officials are none the wiser."

"Pete Burns sent me 26 red roses on my birthday, and I sent him 48 naked sailors."

"How depressing it is that people find it necessary to listen to Debbie Gibson records."

"I heard Geoirge Michael's 'I Want Your Sex' in the car recently. I wasn't deeply impressed. I thought it sounded like Ponce, I mean Prince!"

Awwww, he needs a hug!

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Even at it's best Morrissey's solo material hasn't come close to eclipsing The Smiths. It was the Morrissey-Marr combination which made The Smiths really tick and having heard Morrissey's latest album (You Are The Quarry) frankly some of the musical content is mediocre at best. He still does a good line in self-deprecating humour and english gangster-related storytelling but increasingly I feel his songwriting has become much less subtle, America Is Not The World is a good example.

You Are The Quarry was pretty well received though and some of it is good, adequate but not really much better than that. I saw him live a month or so ago and he obviously has a good stage persona, although he wasn't as flamboyant as I thought he'd be. I reckoned it was the next best thing to actually seeing The Smiths play live.

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theFijian said:
Even at it's best Morrissey's solo material hasn't come close to eclipsing The Smiths. It was the Morrissey-Marr combination which made The Smiths really tick and having heard Morrissey's latest album (You Are The Quarry) frankly some of the musical content is mediocre at best. He still does a good line in self-deprecating humour and english gangster-related storytelling but increasingly I feel his songwriting has become much less subtle, America Is Not The World is a good example.

You Are The Quarry was pretty well received though and some of it is good, adequate but not really much better than that. I saw him live a month or so ago and he obviously has a good stage persona, although he wasn't as flamboyant as I thought he'd be. I reckoned it was the next best thing to actually seeing The Smiths play live.

Andy

Hi Andy,

Chartwise, his music has done a lot better than the Smiths. His first three solo singles made the Top 10 as well as his albums having a bit more staying power.

I would say though that his recent stuff hasn't done much to set me alight, especially because where I live if you have been away from the music scene for along time you just get forgotten about. This wasn't quite the same for Meatloaf and Cher, but comebacks by acts like Duran Duran, Blondie, Donny
Osmond and Prince have virtually fallen on deaf ears.


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crashedman said:
Hi Andy,

Chartwise, his music has done a lot better than the Smiths. His first three solo singles made the Top 10 as well as his albums having a bit more staying power.
Well his single Irish Blood, English Heart from You are the Quarry reached #3 in the UK but there are subtle reasons for this: there was a lot of publicity for his last album, he also gave his first interrview on British TV for almost 20 years; Morrissey has a kind of iconic and enigmatic persona over here because the Smiths are constantly being discovered by new music fans with the realisation that they were possibly THE definitive British band of the 80s paving the way for all the 90s rock/brit-pop music; there is a surge back towards guitar/rock music in the UK at present. The Smiths singles were also, for some reason never really big sellers with only This Charming Man and Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now breaking into the Top 10.

And as for Morrissey's albums having more staying power than The Smiths, all I can say is that in my experiance that is certainly not the case. Smiths albums are constantly in demand at the record stores near me and have been through several re-issues if I recall correctly.
 
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