Mormonism

[jukesk9]

I've been wrriting a book on Mormonism for about 10 years now. It is pretty much done and I have two publishers that sound like they might want it. Grant it, they've both said I wouldn't get paid hardly anything, but that's okay as long as I can get it out there. Since I've became Catholic I have been editing it, so it fits in to Catholic theology.

I'll buy one from you if you send me an autographed copy!

My question is, do you believe that Joseph really saw a spirit named Moroni and really got Gold Plates?

I think he did, that he really did see an angel (or what he thought was an angel) and he really got the Golden Plates that would become the Book of Mormon.

What do you think?

I believe he saw a spirit--why else would the Bible tell us to test a spirit to see if they are really from God? But I believe it is another of Satan's attempts lead us astray. I work with three Mormons. So far, they have never, ever try to convert any of us at work. They've never brought up religion, either. So, I don't know much other than what I've read on the 'net.........




[/QUOTE]

 

[ProCommunioneFacior]

What do I think about Mormons?

Well, I lived in a town with about 95% Mormons, and if you are not a Mormon you are ostracized (it stinks being alienated from 95% of your peers during the late elementary years and junior high years).

As far as the "good" family values they have? I think it is a brilliant marketing ploy.

Are they christian? Nope.

Was Joseph Smith a lunatic or was he influenced by a demon? I'm not sure.

What do they truly believe? Well, I can never get a straight and consistent answer, so I'm not sure. Their teachings seem to change with the tide.

I hope to study more about them some day so I can evangelize them.

 

[stray bullet]

I've been wrriting a book on Mormonism for about 10 years now. It is pretty much done and I have two publishers that sound like they might want it. Grant it, they've both said I wouldn't get paid hardly anything, but that's okay as long as I can get it out there. Since I've became Catholic I have been editing it, so it fits in to Catholic theology.

My question is, do you believe that Joseph really saw a spirit named Moroni and really got Gold Plates?

I think he did, that he really did see an angel (or what he thought was an angel) and he really got the Golden Plates that would become the Book of Mormon.

What do you think?

No, I think he was a racist, sexist liar. I'm sure you are familiar with the circumstances of his 'translations' to know the whole thing was a calculated decision and he never translated anything.

Some people out there would make up a religion for purely ego reasons.

 

[stray bullet]

Islam, I could see being created under such circumstances.

IN fact, I think it is well suited to your Galatians quote.

 

[PaladinValer]

Mormons believe that, while the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in essence are God, they aren't of the same substance. Thus, each is its own deity

Mormons believe that very few people will go to hell. Those who do will be there only temporarily, for once they've done their time, they ascend to the lesser of the three heavens. Only the worst of the worst stay in hell for eternity.

They believe in three heavenly kingdoms. The lowest is ruled by the Holy Spirit and is basically for righteous non-Christians, non-repentent Christians, and those who've done their time in hell. The second kingdom is ruled by the Son, Jesus of Nazareth. It is populated mainly by non-Mormon Christians. The highest and third heaven is ruled by the Father, and is home to Mormons and exceptional non-Mormon Christians. The greatest of these are Mormons who've married a fellow Mormon in a temple ceremony, whom are blessed to become gods.

Mormons believe that, if two Mormons are married at a temple ceremony, lived according to the rules of the faith, and die, they will be granted deityhood by the Father, and become gods and goddesses of their own worlds.

Mormons believe that the Father was once a mortal man.

Mormons believe that, if they "baptize the dead" by proxy, they've given that soul the chance to accept their "gospel." If the soul accepts the "truth," they are able to zip right to the highest heaven.

Hope this helps!

 

[Ave Maria]

No, I think he was a racist, sexist liar. I'm sure you are familiar with the circumstances of his 'translations' to know the whole thing was a calculated decision and he never translated anything.

Some people out there would make up a religion for purely ego reasons.

I don't really know much about Mormonism but I did read that in one of the books in the Book of Mormon, it mentions glass windows or something like that. The thing is, this contradicts archaeology because the supposed time that these "glass windows" existed it wouldn't have even been possible to have glass windows. I have no idea if there's any truth to this accusation or not but that's what I've heard. I don't have anything against Mormons but I do believe that Mormonism is heretical.

 

[JJM]

I'll buy one from you if you send me an autographed copy

I'll just buy one if you get is published and post the title.

 

[Veritas]

Well, let's see. As I've mentioned in a thread before, I have Mormon neighbor's who gave me some banana bread and a Mormon Christmas video (really weird). I'm also a decendent of the original Mormon pioneers, so many on my mother's side are Mormon. At least we have really good geneology records! I believe as a result, I can prove my DAR (Daughter's of the American Revolution) status. I've studied their faith a little and I must say for anyone who would recommend it, Dave Hunt (yes, that Dave Hunt) wrote a book called The God-Makers which is a total distortion...surprise! I think it's possible to fairly and accurately protray the problems with Mormonism without resorting to libel.

 

[BAChristian]

Of the three or four Mormons that I'm friends with, I'd say they have strong Mormon morals, and love Jesus Christ completely.

Let them have their faith. Everyone thinks Catholics are looney too.

Anyway, Jeff, if you would like someone to edit that for free, I'll volunteer my services. I was an Editor for a magazine publication in a past life, FWIW.

 

[stray bullet]

Of the three or four Mormons that I'm friends with, I'd say they have strong Mormon morals, and love Jesus Christ completely.

Let them have their faith.

It's perverse. Christians should do everything they can to help them get out of it.

While you are 'letting them have their faith', they are going door to door praying on confused people, not mentioning the sick aspects of their 'faith'.

 

[BAChristian]

It's perverse. Christians should do everything they can to help them get out of it.

While you are 'letting them have their faith', they are going door to door praying on confused people, not mentioning the sick aspects of their 'faith'.

Why don't you just live the life like you should as a devout Catholic Christian and let Christ do the rest.

Abortions and devil worship is perverse. I have yet to be presented with anything that is perverse within Mormonism.

 

[stray bullet]

Why don't you just live the life like you should as a devout Catholic Christian and let Christ do the rest.

Abortions and devil worship is perverse. I have yet to be presented with anything that is perverse within Mormonism.

Hey Peter?
Yes Paul?
How about we just live the life like we should as Christians and let Christ do the rest?

Christians are given these opportunities to prove ourselves and do good, not to be complacent.
Mormonism is a perversion of Christianity, a huge change in theology. They actively seek out to destroy true Christianity. When people are fighting against you, you should not just stand by why they destroy you, putting it all on God.

God can do it all. Then again, my dad could do my homework when I was a kid, that doesn't mean it is good for me to let him.

They are:
-Racist
-Sexist
-Out to abolish Christianity

 

[BAChristian]

Hey Peter?
Yes Paul?
How about we just live the life like we should as Christians and let Christ do the rest?

Christians are given these opportunities to prove ourselves and do good, not to be complacent.
Mormonism is a perversion of Christianity, a huge change in theology. They actively seek out to destroy true Christianity. When people are fighting against you, you should not just stand by why they destroy you, putting it all on God.

God can do it all. Then again, my dad could do my homework when I was a kid, that doesn't mean it is good for me to let him.

They are:
-Racist
-Sexist
-Out to abolish Christianity

I'm sorry you feel that way. I respectfully disagree.

 

[stray bullet]

I'm sorry you feel that way. I respectfully disagree.

With which part?

 

[ProCommunioneFacior]

Hey Peter?
Yes Paul?
How about we just live the life like we should as Christians and let Christ do the rest?

Christians are given these opportunities to prove ourselves and do good, not to be complacent.
Mormonism is a perversion of Christianity, a huge change in theology. They actively seek out to destroy true Christianity. When people are fighting against you, you should not just stand by why they destroy you, putting it all on God.

God can do it all. Then again, my dad could do my homework when I was a kid, that doesn't mean it is good for me to let him.

They are:
-Racist
-Sexist
-Out to abolish Christianity

I completely agree.

 

[Ave Maria]

Hey Peter?
Yes Paul?
How about we just live the life like we should as Christians and let Christ do the rest?

Christians are given these opportunities to prove ourselves and do good, not to be complacent.
Mormonism is a perversion of Christianity, a huge change in theology. They actively seek out to destroy true Christianity. When people are fighting against you, you should not just stand by why they destroy you, putting it all on God.

God can do it all. Then again, my dad could do my homework when I was a kid, that doesn't mean it is good for me to let him.

They are:
-Racist
-Sexist
-Out to abolish Christianity

I completely agree.

Same here. I also completely agree. The Catholic Church has the whole truth. Mormonism is heretical in my opinion and we should do what we can to reach out to them with the whole truth.

 

[Dominus Fidelis]

I had one try to convert me but my mad apologetic skillz sent him running far, far away....

 

[RedTulipMom]

I had 2 mormons that came to my house weekly for 6 mos. I was already strong in my own faith at the time and was allowing them to come and "talk" to me more or less to evangelize them without them knowing i was evangelizing them. (i was Protestant, not Catholic at the time). Finally after 6 mos they said to me "alright you MUST tell us yes or no whether you accept the book of mormon as true or we cant come back anymore". The last conversation i had with them i believe was God-inspired and that the Holy spirit used it. I cant explain it but one of the guys who was new to the mormon faith, his doubts were seeping out over our last month of conversations. I felt like i seen through his soul during our last conversation and that God told me I planted a seed in him that would later come to fruition and get him out of the mormon church. I believe that to this day, i highly doubt that man is still mormon. They have some really out there ideas and doctrines. Its a rabbit hole that goes deeper and deeper. You can only imagine. They believe in all kinds of gods including men. Different levels of heaven. etc. Much of the book of mormon has been proven historically innaccurate. I don't believe for a second that joseph smith actually was visited by and angel or a spirit or a demon. I believe he was mentally ill. He didnt recieve any gold plates. I read into it in detail and it becomes obvious that much of the book of mormon was taken from the bible word for word. He led so many astray and its a shame. Mormons are not Christians. They preach a different gospel and a different Christ.

karen

 

[Benedicta00]

No, I think he was a racist, sexist liar. I'm sure you are familiar with the circumstances of his 'translations' to know the whole thing was a calculated decision and he never translated anything.

Some people out there would make up a religion for purely ego reasons.

I agree, I do not think he had a legitimate demonic vision but was just a sheep in wolves clothing influenced by the enemy.

They aren’t Christian and they do not worship the Turin God like Jews or even Muslims do/may. Their teaching denies who God is, let alone who Christ is. They do not believe God preexisted, they believe God became God, which is ridiculous.

 

[IamKennySe]

They aren’t Christian and they do not worship the Turin God like Jews or even Muslims do/may.

Shelb5 means Triune God, not Turin God.

Although there is this really neat shroud in the city of Turin.