Mormon messages.

[stivvy]

Calling people morons, that's soooo Christ like!

Well, it is my opinion of them. But there is scientific support to my selection of terminology.

Moron:*Originally a scientific term, coined by psychologist Henry Goddard from a Greek word meaning "foolish", and used to describe a person with a genetically determined mental age between 8 and 12 on the Binet scale. It was also once applied to people with an IQ of 51-70 and was a step up from "imbecile" (IQ of 26-50) and two steps up from "idiot" (IQ of 0-25). ...

So I think their little fantacy world fits this quite well. Following something that someone made up is very childish and takes very little intellegence to accomplish.

And Jesus the Christ many many times called many foolish and heritics. Please refer to Matthew 23 for just one example.

 

[JasonV]

Well, it is my opinion of them. But there is scientific support to my selection of terminology.


So I think their little fantacy world fits this quite well. Following something that someone made up is very childish and takes very little intellegence to accomplish.

And Jesus the Christ many many times called many foolish and heritics. Please refer to Matthew 23 for just one example.

I might argue that Mormons, generally, have more education than the national average. And it takes a great deal of intellectual skill to run themselves around with bits and pieces of "evidence" to stay faithful.

Hardly the moronic types.

 

[stivvy]

I disagree. One is foolish if they run around and follow something that is so assinine and has no solid foundation to build a faith on. Jesus called the misleading leaders and teachers of the jewish faith foolish and they had more credibility than these folks.

 

[Miss Shelby]

well i dunno, Stiv, Christ did say that we are supposed to approach our faith with childlike reverence.

I have always thought that the Mormon Church copies a great deal, at least morality wise as the Catholic Church. they have similar heirarchial structure-- I cannot really think of the other similarities now, but one thing they do have strength in is the area of catechises. And the ones I have conversed with are genuinely convinced their Church is true. I have always thought they are the most liable people, if convinced by the truth of Catholicism, to be the best Catholics. If only we could get them to convert.

 

[JasonV]

The most intelligent Catholic I've ever met, hands down, was a convert from Mormonism.

 

[stivvy]

Michelle, have you read the story behind the mormon faith? It reads like a saturday morning cartoon fanticy land and is nothing short of herisy.

Here is a good explination on the web:

http://www.hismin.com/ourstory.htm

 

[AMDG]

one thing they do have strength in is the area of catechises.

Cough-cough-cough. Sending out poor high school age kids with just a course of hard sell techniques under their belts, telling them that they have special "powers" as priests, and an expecting that they must "convert" other Christians so as to get glory points, is "strength in the area of catechises"?!!

 

[Called2Grace]

I just want to point out that while we are asked to be Christ like, we aren't as to BE Christ. We are asked to help lead others to the truth, but we are to be charitable.

We are asked to love people regardless, especially those that we have difficulty loving, we can't just love somebody until we realise that we can't "convert" them.

We are to be Christ like, not Christ.

 

[MichaelFJF]

1. Mormons are not stupid. They may be misguided, but not stupid.

2. Calling a group "morons" just because you don't like their beliefs is, well, moronic.

3. Thank you to whoever posted the definitions. I've been meaning to research that for a friend.

4. As far as following something with no solid foundation - well, lots of people do that. But the name-calling is pretty childish. I should know - I've done it enough.

 

[zhilan]

well i dunno, Stiv, Christ did say that we are supposed to approach our faith with childlike reverence.

I have always thought that the Mormon Church copies a great deal, at least morality wise as the Catholic Church. they have similar heirarchial structure-- I cannot really think of the other similarities now, but one thing they do have strength in is the area of catechises. And the ones I have conversed with are genuinely convinced their Church is true. I have always thought they are the most liable people, if convinced by the truth of Catholicism, to be the best Catholics. If only we could get them to convert.

I agree with you. I think in theological outlook (but not theology) they have more of a common basis with Catholics and Orthodox than we do with Protestants, in that they can more easily understand the ideas of tradition and everything not just being from the Bible only, sacred liturgy, etc. Because of things, I agree, they would make great Catholics (or Orthodox).

 

[E.C.]

Mormons are what I like to call: quasi-neo-Gnostics. A lot of their theology, so-called, is similar to that of Gnosticism.

On a separate website, whenever I ask a Mormon what they think of "the Gnostic Gospels and the heresy of Gnosticism" they always never respond.

 

[WarriorAngel]

Well, for the sake of hoping a mormon reads this...
Please research the Catholic Church and then LDS church.

Anyway, I love their commercials about 'Family, isnt it about time?'

I hope I outlive my husband because his lack of knowledge is a scary thing. He could not believe some of the stuff I told him they believed...
I am serious, he could NOT believe it.
IE, he thinks I was kidding.

 

[Cecilia]

My good friend is Mormon and in high school, I attended a church service of his in order to understand what he believes better in hopes helping him convert. Someone said that the conversation posted about spirit babies that missionaries don't talk like that. I'm proof that they do. Because I raised objections in a bible study, I was locked in a room alone with two male missionaries at the tender age of 15. They wouldn't let me leave until I pretended to agree with them. It was a load of garbage and I was terrified of them. I'd never seen someone so brainwashed. As I pretended to listen to their speel, I prayed a constant silent rosary. Take that! But yes, their missionaries are aggressive and intimidating. I still get nervous around guys in black suits. So whoever said that their missionaries won't admit to the things they believe that outsiders shouldn't know....I got those men to think about my objections. They actually looked stumped.

 

[E.C.]

Because I raised objections in a bible study, I was locked in a room alone with two male missionaries at the tender age of 15. They wouldn't let me leave until I pretended to agree with them.

That's kidnapping and extortion!

Heretics! Absolute heretics! How dare they use near convert-or-the-sword tactics!

 

[JasonV]

That's kidnapping and extortion!

Heretics! Absolute heretics! How dare they use near convert-or-the-sword tactics!

I'm pretty sure St. Constantine employed similar measures.

 

[Kas]

So.....we should be mocking Islam more?

we should be confronting Islam...not cowering to it...and then acting like we're 'soemthing' when it comes to the mormon church...

...I just find this attitude farcical...

Kas

 

[SumTinWong]

If you go to Rome or any ancient place in the Bible you can dig up or visit those ancient cities or coins and artifacts mentioned in the Bible. I do not see anyone out in the desert of Utah trying to locate and excavate the ancient cities or artifact the Book of Mormon claim to be there, and I live in a neihboring state.

This is because the LDS moved out West when they were chased out by the people of this neck of the woods in the East. It was here in NY that the plates were supposedly found and the first LDS church is actually in Ohio if i am not mistaken. So anyway no one digs up any ruins in Utah, because int he grand scheme of things they just got there.

 

[AMDG]

Consider the possibility that there are many "strong arm" tactics used by the teen Missionaries, and not that a particular story is true or false. I mean, I have had a missionary "posture over me" while "yelling" to the point where his companion looked shocked and our neighbor's dog was barking non-stop, while others have been oh-so-polite and wouldn't think of being alone with a woman. And, of course there are the teens that can't explain a thing, but will "bear their testimonies" that is after an "offer" of baptism (nothing ventured nothing gained) or the ones that insist that the Catholic Church had gone astray and that is why Joseph Smith had to found the LDS, but can't give a date for the "going astray".

Honestly, they're just teens, probably away from their families for the first time in their lives, and literally "forced" to do this two year stint by their "not-so-loving", IMO, church. If you really think of it, one even wonders why they put the kids through this when if we refuse "baptism" now, they'll simply do it for us after we die.

 

[E.C.]

I'm pretty sure St. Constantine employed similar measures.

Nah. He did not employ "convert or the sword" tactics.

As for the holding captive; most likely did so in wars involving the Persians.

 

[JasonV]

Nah. He did not employ "convert or the sword" tactics.

As for the holding captive; most likely did so in wars involving the Persians.

What about banishing Bishops? That did happen. If they'd have stayed, would they not have been killed?

I'm not trying to put you on the spot bro, just saying that these kind of things happen in every religion, not just the Mormons.